Hehe no more soda for the kiddies

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The discussion revolves around the removal of soda and snack vending machines from schools, exploring the implications for student health, parental responsibility, and the role of schools in monitoring dietary choices. Participants share personal experiences and opinions on the impact of such policies on students and the broader societal context of nutrition and health.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express relief at the removal of soda from schools, citing personal experiences of reducing soda consumption.
  • Others question the rationale behind the removal, suggesting that it punishes all students for the choices of a few and arguing that health issues should be addressed at home.
  • A participant mentions that soda companies pay schools for advertising, raising concerns about the influence of corporate interests on student health.
  • There are differing views on the nutritional value of snacks consumed before physical activities, with some arguing that high sugar snacks are detrimental, while others suggest that complex carbohydrates are more appropriate.
  • Some participants share anecdotes about the affordability and benefits of homegrown, organic food as a healthier alternative to soda and processed snacks.
  • Concerns are raised about the potential for schools to overreach in monitoring students' health and dietary choices, with calls for parental responsibility to be emphasized instead.
  • Several participants share humorous or exaggerated claims about the effects of soda, with a later reply suggesting that some of these claims may be myths.

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Participants do not reach a consensus; there are multiple competing views regarding the appropriateness of soda removal from schools, the responsibility of parents versus schools, and the nutritional implications of snack choices.

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Participants express varying assumptions about the role of schools in health education and the influence of corporate sponsorship on school policies. The discussion reflects a range of personal experiences and beliefs about nutrition and health without resolving the underlying disagreements.

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hehe no more soda for the kiddies :D

http://famulus.msnbc.com/famulusgen/reuters09-01-175955.asp?t=renew&vts=9120052319

Thank god i got out of high school before all this craziness started!
 
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Which craziness?
 
Can't say that any school I ever attended had soda anywhere on the campus, well maybe the teachers lounge. What lobbyists got soda into schools in the first place?
 
There are quite a few vending machines at my high school. Not that I ever use them, though if I wanted anything to drink, I could just walk to a grocery store during lunch...
 
I seriously think this is great. I stopped drinking cokes about 3-4 years ago.
 
Most of the soda makers pay schools to put there brand in them. Its the best advertising bank for the buck.
 
hypatia said:
Most of the soda makers pay schools to put there brand in them. Its the best advertising bank for the buck.

Wow, what's next putting McDonalds in the cafaterias? Maybe Nike could open a store there too. :rolleyes:
 
I can't really disagree with what they are doing. Although, I always cringe when I see a headline with a government body "banning" anything.
 
Don't let your kids get fat.

It's sad how countries are dying of starvation, and we are sitting here dying for over-eating.

Very sad.
 
  • #10
my school is removing all snack vending machines and soda machines, and also will be shutting down the snack bar line.
So punish everyone because a few (ok a lot) of kids get fat!
I need my vending machine! after going 8 hours with no good food, i need to eat something before cross country practice (i don't get cramps from eating before i run, don't worry(unless i eat a lot))
That's taking it too far, the problem starts at home, not school. If the kids are fat, then its the parents fault, not the schools. school's are for learning, not being healthy/ babysitting. being healthy/babbysitting/ "the talk" are what al gore invented parents for, just like he invented the internet.


Fibonacci
 
  • #11
I'm by no means an expert on nutrition, but I can tell you that eating high sugar content snacks before a cross country run is not going to help you in the long run (no pun intended). High sugar content foods give us a lot of energy very quickly but is drops off rather quickly also, leaving you with less energy to finish the activity. Also it's not impossible to take a snack with you to school with higher nutritional value and greater energy potential. There is no excuse for going 8 hours without food, That is one of the things that lead to people getting fat in the first place.
 
  • #12
Arent you suppose to load up on carbs for the big race :D
 
  • #13
I believe complex carbs is what they refer to, not simple sugars. Like I said I'm no expert.
 
  • #14
Yeah, you should load up on complex carbs, and a combination of simple and complex carbs during the day of the race or during the race.

To prevent cramps, you need food with potassium in it. Try a banana, or an orange.

The bottom line... 95% of Americans and Canadians are unhealthy. Just because you're thin, it does not mean you are healthier.

It's not difficult to eat healthy and in moderation. Not hard at all.
 
  • #15
Just when you thought you knew everything...

1. In many states the highway patrol carries two gallons of Coke in the trunk to remove blood from the highway after a car accident.

2. You can put a T-bone steak in a bowl of coke and it will be gone in two days.

3. To clean a toilet: Pour a can of Coca-Cola into the toilet bowl... Let the "real thing" sit for one hour, then flush clean.

4. The citric acid in Coke removes stains from vitreous china.

5. To remove rust spots from chrome car bumpers: Rub the bumper with a crumpled-up piece of Reynolds Wrap aluminum foil dipped in Coca-Cola.

6. To clean corrosion from car battery terminals: Pour a can of Coca-Cola over the terminals to bubble away corrosion.

7. To loosen a rusted bolt: Applying a cloth soaked in Coca-Cola to the rusted bolt for several minutes.

8. To remove grease from clothes: Empty a can of coke into a load of greasy clothes, add detergent, and run through a regular cycle. The Coca-Cola will help loosen grease stains. It will also clean road haze from your windshield.

9.The active ingredient in Coke is phosphoric acid. Its pH is 2.8. It will dissolve a nail in about 4 days.

10.To carry Coca Cola syrup (the concentrate) the commercial truck must use the Hazardous material place cards reserved for Highly Corrosive materials.

11.The distributors of coke have been using it to clean the engines of their trucks for about 20 years!

I'll leave the debunking up to someone else...:)

We don't do the soda thing. We grow our own veggies organically. The kids have garden vegetables at most meals at home.

Our dinner tonight for a family of four was about 8 dollars. That's 6.00 for the pork chops that we grilled, and a couple bucks for the milk and etc. We had home grown corn on the cob and home grown sliced Brandywine tomatoes on the side. Everyone went away full.

Organic, healthy, cheap, lots of veggies. Easy too. It doesn't get much better.
 
  • #16
It's not really the school's or the districts business to monitor the kids' health issues. If the parents don't want their kid to be fat, make them get some exercise or eat right. don't punish an entire district full of kids because some of them are overweight
 
  • #18
pattylou said:
I'll leave the debunking up to someone else...:)

We don't do the soda thing. We grow our own veggies organically. The kids have garden vegetables at most meals at home.

Our dinner tonight for a family of four was about 8 dollars. That's 6.00 for the pork chops that we grilled, and a couple bucks for the milk and etc. We had home grown corn on the cob and home grown sliced Brandywine tomatoes on the side. Everyone went away full.

Organic, healthy, cheap, lots of veggies. Easy too. It doesn't get much better.

Here is a page that lends some insight to the other side of the fence. While I'm sure coke isn't at all good for you, I think some of those examples you quoted are myth. Orange juice has in fact more acid in it than coke does.

http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/tooth.asp
 
  • #19
Salsa will clean a penny. Better stop eating all mexican food.
 
  • #20
Well, I did say I'd leave the debunking to someone else.

I posted the list for its ugh value, not for its accuracy. :) The ugh value would have been compromised if I debunked the thing myself!
 
  • #21
yomamma said:
It's not really the school's or the districts business to monitor the kids' health issues. If the parents don't want their kid to be fat, make them get some exercise or eat right.
A little difficult when they spend so many hours at school with all the those tempting bad food choices.
don't punish an entire district full of kids because some of them are overweight

Why can't the one's who's parents don't mind if they drink soda at school, just send it with their kid's? Why must the school supply it?
Also, how is not selling soda at school a punsishment? It isn't like the ability to buy soda at school is some sort of right for all students.
 
  • #22
the punishment is first selling it, then taking it away. They wouldn't care if they never had one, but only because they used to.

and I see no problem with the school supplying it, they're making money.
 
  • #23
my friends bring beer in the school. and sometimes even pot!
tried it sometimes. :wink: couldn't get up till 11 in the morning after i slept at 6 at night.
 
  • #24
GOD__AM said:
I'm by no means an expert on nutrition, but I can tell you that eating high sugar content snacks before a cross country run is not going to help you in the long run (no pun intended). High sugar content foods give us a lot of energy very quickly but is drops off rather quickly also, leaving you with less energy to finish the activity. Also it's not impossible to take a snack with you to school with higher nutritional value and greater energy potential. There is no excuse for going 8 hours without food, That is one of the things that lead to people getting fat in the first place.

it was only cheetos :cry:
 
  • #25
JasonRox said:
Yeah, you should load up on complex carbs, and a combination of simple and complex carbs during the day of the race or during the race.

To prevent cramps, you need food with potassium in it. Try a banana, or an orange.

The bottom line... 95% of Americans and Canadians are unhealthy. Just because you're thin, it does not mean you are healthier.

It's not difficult to eat healthy and in moderation. Not hard at all.

yeah, but when the only decent food offered for lunch is pizza with a thick layer of greese on top, it is
 

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