Helicopter Problem: Find Time for Mailbag to Reach Ground

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The problem involves calculating the time it takes for a mailbag released from a helicopter to reach the ground. The height of the helicopter is described by a cubic function of time, and the scenario includes considerations of initial velocity and gravitational effects.

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  • Participants discuss the initial height of the helicopter at the time of release and the need to account for initial velocity. There are attempts to set up equations based on the height function and gravitational motion.

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Some participants have provided guidance on correcting signs in equations and differentiating the height function to find initial velocity. There is ongoing exploration of the quadratic equation derived from the motion equations, with some expressing frustration over the complexity and seeking clarification.

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Participants mention confusion regarding the variables used in their equations and the direction of motion. There is a sense of urgency as some express the need to complete multiple problems.

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Homework Statement


The height of a helicopter above the ground is given by h = 2.60t3, where h is in meters and t is in seconds. At t = 2.10 s, the helicopter releases a small mailbag. How long after its release does the mailbag reach the ground?


Homework Equations


Y=ViT - (1/2)gt^2


The Attempt at a Solution


h=(2.60)(2.10)^3
24.0786=0t-(1/2)(9.8)t^2

Thank you.
 
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jaytm2291 said:

The Attempt at a Solution


h=(2.60)(2.10)^3
24.0786=0t-(1/2)(9.8)t^2

Thank you.

That is correct, but your '-' should be a '+' since you will want to take down as the positive direction. Otherwise your displacement is negative.
 
rock.freak667 said:
That is correct, but your '-' should be a '+' since you will want to take down as the positive direction. Otherwise your displacement is negative.

Then I would have:

24.0786 = 0t + 4.9t^2
t^2 = 4.914
t=2.2s

This is wrong. Any ideas?
 
jaytm2291 said:
Then I would have:

24.0786 = 0t + 4.9t^2
t^2 = 4.914
t=2.2s

This is wrong. Any ideas?

Uhm if that is not correct then it means that the helicopter was rising when the bag was dropped, in which you need to get the initial vertical velocity by differentiating 'h' with respect to 't'.
 
rock.freak667 said:
Uhm if that is not correct then it means that the helicopter was rising when the bag was dropped, in which you need to get the initial vertical velocity by differentiating 'h' with respect to 't'.

Vi = h'(t) = 7.8t^2 = 7.8(2.10)^2=34.398 m/s ?
 
jaytm2291 said:
Vi = h'(t) = 7.8t^2 = 7.8(2.10)^2=34.398 m/s ?

So now try solving 24.0786=34.398t-(1/2)(9.8)t^2 and see if you get the correct answer.
 
rock.freak667 said:
So now try solving 24.0786=34.398t-(1/2)(9.8)t^2 and see if you get the correct answer.

It is a quadratic Equation which gives me..x = 0 when y = .785
 
jaytm2291 said:
It is a quadratic Equation which gives me..x = 0 when y = .785

:confused:where did you get x and y from? You only had 't' to solve for.
 
Listen I have been trying to figure this problem out for 3 hours and 14 minutes. I'm freaking out over this. Can you just point me in the right direction and tell me which formula to use so I can can get on with this? I still need to do so many other problems and this is really annoying if I'm doing this in the wrong direction.
 
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jaytm2291 said:
Listen I have been trying to figure this problem out for 3 hours and 14 minutes. I'm freaking out over this. Can you just point me in the right direction and tell me which formula to use so I can can get on with this? I still need to do so many other problems and this is really annoying if I'm doing this in the wrong direction.

What I meant was that you had to solve:

24.0786=34.398t-(1/2)(9.8)t2

to get t, which is why I am confused as to where you got 'x'and 'y' from. I don't mean to cause you anymore frustration but solving for 't' should give the correct answer.
 
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I got when x is = 0, y is = to .785 is all I know. This is the most frustrating thing I just want to be done with. Please help me finish this problem. Thank you. Can you solve it from the beginning and not take my word for it because I'm really confused. Thank you.
 
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jaytm2291 said:
I got when x is = 0, y is = to .785 is all I know. This is the most frustrating thing I just want to be done with. Please help me finish this problem. Thank you. Can you solve it from the beginning and not take my word for it because I'm really confused. Thank you.

24.0786=34.398t-(1/2)(9.8)t2

Do you know how to solve a quadratic equation? That is all you have to do for now.
 
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Yes. But I don't even know if these numbers or direction I am going in is correct and you are just telling me to go with what I have been doing. Please tell me I am doing the right thing.
 
  • #14
I believe that you were using the correct method, you just did not include the initial speed of the helicopter initially.
 

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