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The discussion revolves around the decision-making process of a grade 12 student contemplating university options in Ontario, specifically between the University of Windsor and the University of Western Ontario, with a focus on physics and chemistry programs. Participants explore factors such as reputation, scholarship opportunities, campus life, and the impact of university choice on future academic and career prospects.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a belief that Western is a better school overall, particularly for medical science, and highlights the benefits of campus life and involvement.
  • Another participant argues against the financial decision of attending Western when a full scholarship is available at Windsor, suggesting that undergraduate programs are unlikely to differ significantly.
  • Questions arise regarding the specifics of the scholarship at Windsor, including its duration and requirements for maintaining eligibility.
  • Concerns are raised about the commuting aspect of attending Windsor versus living on campus at Western.
  • A participant asserts that the reputation of the undergraduate institution may influence future graduate school or job applications, based on their experience in Canada.
  • Contradictory views are presented regarding the quality of physics programs at both universities, with one participant claiming there is no significant difference and advocating for staying home for support.
  • Another participant points out that Western offers a double major option in chemistry and physics, while Windsor has more limited degree options.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the relative merits of the two universities, with no consensus reached on whether Western is definitively better than Windsor for physics. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the impact of university choice on future opportunities.

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Participants mention various assumptions about scholarship conditions, commuting logistics, and the implications of university reputation, which may not be fully defined or agreed upon.

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I am a current grade 12 student interested in studying physics and chemistry in university. I have applied and been accepted to the University of Windsor and the University of Western Ontario.

I know Western is a much better school overall...especially when it comes to medical science. Also, it has a very nice campus and a large student body, with plenty to do and get involved in. I would be staying in residence here which would be fun.

At Windsor, it is a smaller school with not a great reputation as far as I know. I received a full scholarship here, but only $2000 at Western. I would be driving 30min each day from home.

Basically I want to know if it is worth it to pay $15000 a year to go to a better school (at least I think it is), and to get involved more? Do any of you know for a fact that physics at Western would be much better than physics at Windsor?

Thanks
 
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Simple: No. Paying 15 000% yearly when you have a full scholarship somewhere would be insanely idiotic. As an undergrad, the programs won't be any different. Also, as for involvement, there's always some kind of campus life at any university, so it's not a big deal.
 
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why don't you come to UGA in Georgia? at least it is warmer here!

physics is easier to understand in a warmer climate!
 
under_par_00 said:
At Windsor, it is a smaller school with not a great reputation as far as I know. I received a full scholarship here, but only $2000 at Western. I would be driving 30min each day from home.

Can you define full scholarship? Is it that they will all your tuition for all 4 years, they pay living expenses and the tuition fees or they give you a set amount per year for four years?

Also, which university will need to 30 min drive to reach it every day? Which one do you to move away from home?


under_par_00 said:
Basically I want to know if it is worth it to pay $15000 a year to go to a better school (at least I think it is), and to get involved more? Do any of you know for a fact that physics at Western would be much better than physics at Windsor?

How did you get the $15000 figure?

In my opinion and based on my experience in Canada, the undergrad university you attend will have impact on your application for grad school or for a job.
 
mathwonk said:
why don't you come to UGA in Georgia? at least it is warmer here!

physics is easier to understand in a warmer climate!

I lived on a tropical island for two years, and I missed the blizzards!
 
I would drive in and out of Windsor.
I would live in Rez at Western


The scholarship at windsor is
First Year: $2000
Second Year: $2000 + $2000**
Third Year: $2000 + $2000**
Fourth Year:$2000 + $2000**

The 2nd, 3rd, and 4th year are extra because I get paid to do some research project with a prof.

For this scholarship, I have to keep a B+ average each year to receive it the next.

Also I get:
$1250 each term ($10 000 in total).
For this scholarship I am pretty sure I need to maintain an A- average.

They get you with all the money, but require you to keep your grades really high to keep them.


My uncle is a biology prof at another university and he said that even at Western there will be plenty of opprotunities for me to work with Professors, as long as my grades are good.
 
YOU R WRONG!

Western is not better in physics from Windsor.
There is NOT more involement at Western than at Windsor.
For your undergrad it really does not matter where you get your degree.
I am familiar with both universities. I have an extended family and many of my cousins and friends graduated either from Western or Windsor and no difference.

It is better you stay home and get every possible support you can get from your family, you will need it. After you get your degree then you can move away for your masters and/or PhD.
I am so happy I stayed at home and commute to and from university and it takes me about 40 min by train, I like it. I have my own room, my own bathroom, my own basement for exercises, my laundry, my meals bcs my mom is super mom, I get my free coffe from Tim Hortons Coffee place, much, much more comfortable. Stay Home and enjoy.
 
The Windsor Physics degree is only a 3 year fast track or a 4 year co-op option. At Western I could double major in chemistry and physics, whereas Windsor, it would only be physics.

Why do you say that Western is not necessarily better than Windsor?
 

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