Help double-checking my work on acceleration

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving two objects with different initial speeds and accelerations, racing over a distance. The original poster presents a scenario from a textbook question, analyzing the impact of speed and acceleration on the outcome of the race.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to verify their calculations regarding the distances traveled by two objects under different conditions of speed and acceleration. Some participants question the clarity of the original poster's inquiry, emphasizing the importance of initial velocity in short races versus the role of acceleration in longer races.

Discussion Status

The conversation includes confirmations of the original poster's calculations, with some participants providing insights into the implications of the results based on the duration of the race. There is an acknowledgment of the overtaking point and its relevance to understanding the dynamics of the race.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the distinction between short and long race durations, suggesting that the interpretation of results may vary based on the time frame considered. The original poster expresses uncertainty about their algebra skills, which frames the discussion around validating their approach rather than seeking a definitive answer.

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Hello! I'm new here and I would just like to make sure my work is correct.

Homework Statement


Question as listed in my textbook:
"Go to http://www.fearofphysics.com/Xva/xva.html
Start your first object at 1 m, give it a speed of 2.5 m/s, and an acceleration of 1 m/s squared.
Start your second object at 1 m, give it a speed of 8 m/s, and an acceleration of 0 m/s squared.

Hit "Go!" to see which object wins the race. Which won, the first or the second object?
What factor ended up being most important in the race, speed or acceleration? If the race track was longer, which would have been more important, speed or acceleration? Explain your answer."

Note: You guys don't have to go to the site. It's just a simple flash game. At those settings the second object wins because it's a very short race. (You can just click here to see http://www.fearofphysics.com/cgi-bi...1=1&object2=redtruck&x2=1&v2=8&a2=0&mode=wrap

Homework Equations


Formula given by my textbook for finding velocity and distance of an accelerating object in which v_{o} is the initial velocity.
v = v_{o}t + at
d = v_{o}t + \frac{1}{2}at^{2}

The Attempt at a Solution


In this case speed is more important, as seen by the second object winning the short race presented by the game. However, if the race were longer, let's say it lasted for 100 seconds, the first object would have caught up to the second object 11 seconds in and by the end of the race the first object would have traveled 5250 m while the second would have gone a mere 800 m, losing by 4450 m. The longer the race is, the acceleration causes a greater and greater disparity between the distances traveled by the two objects.

My calculations
Finding the time when the two objects had traveled the same distance. (Solving for t)
d = v_{o}t + \frac{1}{2}at^{2} = r x t
d = 2.5 m/s x t + \frac{1}{2}1 m/s^{2} x t^{2} = 8 m/s x t
d = 2.5t + \frac{t^{2} }{2} = 8t
d = 5t + t^{2} = 16t
t^{2} = 11t
t = 11 seconds
Check: (First object) 2.5m/s x 11 seconds + \frac{1}{2}1 m/s^{2} x 11^{2} = 88 meters traveled
(Second object) 8m/s x 11 seconds = 88 meters traveled

Finding the distances traveled by the two objects in 100 seconds.
First object: 2.5m/s x 100 seconds + \frac{1}{2}1 m/s^{2} x 100^{2} = 250 + 5,000 = 5,250 meters traveled
Second object: 8m/s x 100s = 800 meters traveled

Sorry for the length! It's been a long time since I've done any algebra and I just want to make sure I did this right. I hope it's easy to follow my calculations.
 
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You know the acceleration!...What are you trying to solve for?...You haven't mentioned anything in your question about finding anything!...The question is just :

Which won, the first or the second object? What factor ended up being most important in the race, speed or acceleration? If the race track was longer, which would have been more important, speed or acceleration? Explain your answer.

If the race is for a short period of time, the initial velocity plays more important role because vaguely speaking acceleration get much time to set in. If the race is for a longer period of time, the acceleration of the object would create a disparity in the distance traveled (ever increasing with time).

You solved for overtaking point (11 s), which clearly gives you the above explanation.

Short Period<11 s
Long Period>11 s

Edit: you can easily calculate borderline length of short track and long track from overtaking point, which you have. It is 88 m.
 
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@NihalSh
I just wanted to make sure that my calculations were correct. Like I said, I haven't done algebra in a long time and was kind of unsure of myself. So I guess what I wrote is right?
Thank you for talking the time to comment! I really appreciate a second opinion :)
 
AFSteph said:
@NihalSh
I just wanted to make sure that my calculations were correct. Like I said, I haven't done algebra in a long time and was kind of unsure of myself. So I guess what I wrote is right?
Thank you for talking the time to comment! I really appreciate a second opinion :)

yes, calculations were right. :smile:
 

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