Help Finding Velocity Needed for Object in Moon's Orbit

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The discussion revolves around determining the velocity required for an object to maintain an orbit around the Moon. The subject area includes concepts of gravitational force and orbital mechanics.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • The original poster attempts to relate acceleration and gravitational force but notes the absence of the object's mass. Participants suggest exploring the relationship between gravitational force and centripetal motion, questioning the relevance of escape velocity in this context.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering hints and questioning assumptions about mass and orbital mechanics. There is a mix of interpretations regarding the necessary conditions for maintaining orbit versus escape velocity.

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There is an emphasis on the independence of the object's mass in the context of gravitational force and orbital velocity. The discussion also touches on the assumption of circular motion for the orbit.

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hello,
find velocity required to keep an object in moon's orbit? so far, a = velocity squared over radius and force equals g constant times mass 1 times mass 2 over radius squared, but the object's mass is not given and mass of moon can be found, any help?
 
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HINT: You already know that:

[tex]F_g = \frac{GMm}{r^2}[/tex]

But what else is this equal to. What kind of motion is the object in if it is in orbit? You should be able to set the above expression equal to another expression involving m, then the m's should cancel. See how far you can now. Good Luck.
 
The thing is, it is independent of mass of the object. This is essentially what Galileo demonstrated nearly 400 years ago.
 
Calculate escape velocity, cancelling the m would result from setting it equal to 1/2*mv^2, now v = sqr(GM/r), and the orbit needs to be less than this. interesting stuff...
 
Sorry, escape velocity is going a bit too far, literally and figuratively. You do not need to be at escape velocity to remain in orbit, because that is partly what escape velocities are, the object will be able to escape from the gravitaional influnce of the moon.

Try in an orbit, we assume it is in circular motion. Think of what equations you need to apply.
 

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