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The discussion revolves around identifying personal traits that may indicate a preference for a career in research versus engineering. Participants explore the characteristics associated with each field and consider the challenges of both professions over the long term.

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  • Some participants suggest that engineering traits include a curiosity about how things work, while research traits may involve questioning why things work.
  • One participant argues that research is more challenging due to the need for constant learning and intuition, while engineering jobs can be mundane and not utilize much of what is learned.
  • Another participant counters that many engineering jobs can be interesting and that research can also involve mundane tasks.
  • Some participants emphasize that both fields require problem-solving skills and creativity, and that engineering can be just as challenging as research.
  • There is a mention of engineering research jobs, indicating that one can engage in both fields and develop traits for either.
  • One participant proposes that the best way to determine a preference is to try both fields, as they are broad and not mutually exclusive.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the characterization of engineering jobs as easy or mundane, asserting that many require significant intuition and thought.
  • There are references to personality assessments, such as the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator, as tools for self-discovery in relation to career preferences.

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Participants exhibit disagreement regarding the characterization of engineering and research professions, particularly about the challenges and nature of work in each field. No consensus is reached on which profession is more challenging or fulfilling.

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Participants acknowledge that the definitions of engineering and research can vary, and the discussion reflects a range of personal experiences and perspectives on the nature of work in both fields.

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Individuals considering a career in engineering or research, as well as those interested in understanding the traits and challenges associated with each profession.

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Hi all,
I was just curious and wanted to know how to identify whether I like doing research or I like engineering. The best thing I can think of is to look what personality traits I have and compare those against required for research or engineering professions. For ex: An engineering trait might be to wonder how things work vs a research trait might be why things work?
Are there any such more questions that I can ask myself and choose between research and engineering?

Which of these might be more challenging as a long term profession - Engineering or Research?

Thanks.
 
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Research is much more challenging. Most engineering jobs are pretty mundane where you won't be using most of what you learned. There are high tier eng jobs of course. Depends on the job market and nature of industry as well, but I see people complaining here they are actually doing a technician's job.

In research you constantly have to learn new things as new problems come op. Also, you can't brute force problems by just working harder. Sometimes you just have to have that special intuition which cannot be pinned down what it actually is. It can be very repetitive when you have to perform the same experiment over and over for weeks. Then do a completely different experiment the next months.
With engineering you should be much more invovled with the overal operations of the entire company.
 
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koolraj09 said:
Hi all,
I was just curious and wanted to know how to identify whether I like doing research or I like engineering. The best thing I can think of is to look what personality traits I have and compare those against required for research or engineering professions. For ex: An engineering trait might be to wonder how things work vs a research trait might be why things work?
Are there any such more questions that I can ask myself and choose between research and engineering?

Which of these might be more challenging as a long term profession - Engineering or Research?

Thanks.

There are engineering research jobs, so it's not like you couldn't do both. It's also not like you couldn't develop the personality traits of either one, you could want to understand the physical world in order to apply those principles to build things.
 
I do think this is a good question because, while they both use the same knowledge of the natural world, they can be very different in what you do on a day-to-day basis.
 
Almeisan said:
Research is much more challenging. Most engineering jobs are pretty mundane where you won't be using most of what you learned.

That's a pretty strong quote. I'm a bit doubtful you've tried "most engineering jobs." Engineering has plenty of interesting jobs and research can involve a whole lot of mundane things. That's not even mentioning the fact that many engineers do what most people would call "research."
 
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Almeisan said:
Research is much more challenging. Most engineering jobs are pretty mundane where you won't be using most of what you learned. There are high tier eng jobs of course. Depends on the job market and nature of industry as well, but I see people complaining here they are actually doing a technician's job.

In research you constantly have to learn new things as new problems come op. Also, you can't brute force problems by just working harder. Sometimes you just have to have that special intuition which cannot be pinned down what it actually is. It can be very repetitive when you have to perform the same experiment over and over for weeks. Then do a completely different experiment the next months.
With engineering you should be much more invovled with the overal operations of the entire company.

This seems to be a very misguided comment in my opinion. It's not at all true to say that most engineering jobs are mundane and don't involve using what has been learned. There are very active and exciting areas in both applied engineering and engineering research. It's not true to say that research is always more exciting, as there are plenty of areas of research that are mundane and downright boring. Engineering can be and often is just as, if not more challenging than research.

"In research you constantly have to learn new things as new problems come up."

This is very true...but what does an engineer do upon encountering a problem that they might not know how to solve? They...have to learn new things to solve the problem. Engineering problems can't always be 'brute forced' either. Sometimes they have to be solved very creatively with entirely new methods.
 
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Research in engineering is like research, not like engineering.

I didn't say research is more exciting, let alone always. In fact, I suggested the opposite.

When you do mundane research, you are just wasting your time and you will lose funding if others realize that.
Engineering only has to be done at the level the business is operating at. The average job is like the average company in your area.
 
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Almeisan said:
Research in engineering is like research, not like engineering.

I didn't say research is more exciting, let alone always. In fact, I suggested the opposite.

When you do mundane research, you are just wasting your time and you will lose funding if others realize that.
Engineering only has to be done at the level the business is operating at. The average job is like the average company in your area.

I don't think you know what engineering is.
 
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Research in engineering is like doing research...in engineering. It's similar in many respects to doing research in physics because engineering uses a great deal of physics. However, it is still engineering.
 
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Almeisan said:
When you do mundane research, you are just wasting your time and you will lose funding if others realize that.
This is incorrect in my experience.

the best way to know if you would prefer engineering or research is to try both and make a call based on your experience. Even then, both fields are so broad and not mutually exclusive that you can't make a definitive conclusion.
 
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There are many situations in engineering where you NEED intuition and to really think about the problem. To say engineering jobs are all easy and brute force is to say you don't understand engineering.
 
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No need to get protective about engineering. All we need to do is give OP info.
 
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Almeisan said:
No need to get protective about engineering. All we need to do is give OP info.

I'm sure the OP would appreciate it if you stopped giving him inaccurate info.
 
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Don't look at me. Look at the people taking engineering research, which requires a PhD, and selling it as engineering, which requires a BSc.
 
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Almeisan said:
Don't look at me. Look at the people taking engineering research, which requires a PhD, and selling it as engineering, which requires a BSc.

I do engineering research and I have a BSc, looks like you don't know what research and the spectrum of things that means either.
 
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Sure, whatever.
 
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koolraj09 said:
Hi all,
I was just curious and wanted to know how to identify whether I like doing research or I like engineering. The best thing I can think of is to look what personality traits I have and compare those against required for research or engineering professions. For ex: An engineering trait might be to wonder how things work vs a research trait might be why things work?
Are there any such more questions that I can ask myself and choose between research and engineering?

Which of these might be more challenging as a long term profession - Engineering or Research?

Thanks.
http://www.businessballs.com/kolblearningstyles.htm

to answer your question in general, assimilators are more likely to be scientists, and convergers are more likely to be engineering.

The problem with identifying traits for careers is in many cases different people can be good at and enjoy the same job for different reasons.
 
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if you're also curious take the myers brigs type indicator
 
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If one has a PhD in engineering and does research in engineering, what exactly are they if not an engineer?
 
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According to my supervisor, the one, most important personality trait for a research career is "resilience".

Take from that what you will. :)
 
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koolraj09 said:
Hi all,
I was just curious and wanted to know how to identify whether I like doing research or I like engineering. The best thing I can think of is to look what personality traits I have and compare those against required for research or engineering professions. For ex: An engineering trait might be to wonder how things work vs a research trait might be why things work?
Are there any such more questions that I can ask myself and choose between research and engineering?

Which of these might be more challenging as a long term profession - Engineering or Research?

Thanks.

Challenging in what way? If you're talking about maximum nerdgasmic challenges, then yes, go for research. However, Engineering has many other challenges that you don't see in academia: You have to deal with the end users of your design. The design has to meet certain price points of financial viability. You have many arbitrary constraints and laws to consider. The challenges in Engineering may seem mundane, but I guarantee that they would leave any researcher flummoxed and confounded. It may not be a technical feat, but if the people you're building for don't understand the design, you have failed. It is a very human oriented endeavor.
 
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