Help me come up with shock effect preventing technology (sci-fi book)

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The discussion revolves around the conceptual challenge of creating a technology that prevents the shock effect of underwater sea mines in a sci-fi narrative set on an ocean planet. Participants explore various technological solutions and worldbuilding implications related to underwater combat and environmental hazards.

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  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes the need for technology to mitigate the shock effect of underwater sea mines, questioning how life persists in such a dangerous environment.
  • Another clarifies that "sea mine" refers to a naval mine rather than a mine located on the ocean floor.
  • A suggestion is made to envelop the mine in a large air bubble to diminish the energy transfer to the water, with an estimated bubble size of 3-4 times the mine's diameter, and proposes a method for deploying such a bubble using a submerged craft.
  • The same participant reiterates the air bubble idea, emphasizing the need for a craft that can pressurize air tanks and deploy the bubble effectively.
  • The original poster expresses interest in the idea of using a dampening substance to cover the mine but indicates challenges due to the ocean's high atmospheric density and extreme weather, leading to a preference for developing anti-explosive munitions from underwater resources.
  • Another participant proposes the concept of enhanced background radiation as a potential reason for underwater habitation, suggesting it could stem from an ancient conflict, while also hinting at the implications of WMDs.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple competing ideas regarding the technology to mitigate shock effects and the reasons for underwater habitation, with no consensus reached on a singular solution or explanation.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes various assumptions about the feasibility of proposed technologies and the environmental conditions of the ocean planet, which remain unresolved.

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There is a problem in my technological concept that does not allow the normal development of the plot of the book. It takes place on an ocean planet where being above sea level is absolutely dangerous with the level of technology that exists there. So all combat operations there take place underwater, which automatically means the active use of sea mines. And I have trouble coming up with technology that can prevent the shock effect of them. And if it is not there, then the big question is why, with such an alignment as I describe in the book, people still exist there, and not just a pile of debris with corpses inside.
 
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sea mine means a naval mine, not a mine on the bottom of the sea
 
It seems like if the mine could be enveloped by a large air bubble and the mine detonated, that its coupling of its energy to the water would be diminished. I don't know how large of a bubble would give what diminishing effect, but perhaps you can do some Google searching to see if it's been studied or modeled before. Hopefully something like a bubble diameter of 3-4X the diameter of the mine would give a large dampening effect.

If it could work, then you need to figure out a way to have a craft/drone that pressurizes air tanks at the surface, then submerges and approaches a mine from below. It somehow blows the bubble (maybe with some chemicals to increase the surface tension to hold the bubble together, and releases it with some detonator thing at the bottom/middle of the bubble...
 
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berkeman said:
It seems like if the mine could be enveloped by a large air bubble and the mine detonated, that its coupling of its energy to the water would be diminished. I don't know how large of a bubble would give what diminishing effect, but perhaps you can do some Google searching to see if it's been studied or modeled before. Hopefully something like a bubble diameter of 3-4X the diameter of the mine would give a large dampening effect.

If it could work, then you need to figure out a way to have a craft/drone that pressurizes air tanks at the surface, then submerges and approaches a mine from below. It somehow blows the bubble (maybe with some chemicals to increase the surface tension to hold the bubble together, and releases it with some detonator thing at the bottom/middle of the bubble...
Thanks for the informative reply. I like the idea of covering the mine with a substance that will dampen the shock effect of it, but floating to the surface of the ocean with such frequency and on such a scale is almost impossible due to the high density of the atmosphere, and therefore the extreme weather conditions that rage there. Because of this, I'm leaning more toward crafting special anti-explosive munitions in the form of capsules with a substance produced/mined underwater. And it will make the worldbuilding a lot more interesting and layered, so thanks again man.
 
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Have you considered enhanced background radiation. I mean as another explanation for keeping things happening underwater? Perhaps due to some ancient conflict? I don't think nuclear weapons are the most effective EMPs, but who knows what people do when they have access to WMDs.

I have a couple of ideas but the less said the better. :P
 
OP last seen in February, so no need to spin our wheels anymore here. Thread closed.
 

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