Help Needed: Calculating Rotational Inertia of a Spool

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The discussion revolves around calculating the rotational inertia of a cylindrical spool with a fixed axis, given a length of string pulled off at a constant tension. Participants are exploring concepts related to rotational motion and inertia.

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  • The original poster attempts to understand the definition of rotational inertia and how to apply it to the problem. Some participants suggest using the equation of motion for rotational dynamics, while others question the method of calculating angular acceleration and velocity.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing guidance on using equations related to torque and angular acceleration. There is recognition that the original poster's calculations may need adjustment, particularly regarding the final angular velocity and its implications for determining rotational inertia.

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There is a focus on the assumptions made regarding average versus final angular velocity, and the need for clarity on these concepts is evident. The original poster expresses difficulty in progressing due to confusion over the calculations involved.

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Hi,
I have hard time understanding the rotational inertia .
A string is wrapped around a cylindar spool of radius 1cm. The axis of the spool is fixed. A length of string of .8 m is pulled off in 1.5 s at a constant tension of 20N.
What is the rotational inertia of the spool?

Can I have some help with this problem?
I don't know how to start. The only definition of rotational inertia I have is I=mR2!
Thank you
B.
 
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The eqn of motion you have to use for rotational motion is,

T = Iα

You know the tension applied, so what is the torque ?

You now have to find α, the angular acceln.
Use the other info you have to work out α.

Then solve for I = T/α.
 
Fermat said:
The eqn of motion you have to use for rotational motion is,
T = Iα
You know the tension applied, so what is the torque ?
You now have to find α, the angular acceln.
Use the other info you have to work out α.
Then solve for I = T/α.

Thank you very much Fermat.

However, I have some problem to find the angular acceleration.
From the data from the problem, I found the circumference of the spool:
2*pi*R=0.0628 m
then, I find the number of revolutions for the .8 m string.
I find .8/.0628=12.73 rev.-- 13 revolutions

The angular velocity is w=12.73*(2*pi)/1.5s=53.32 rad/s
so the angular acceleration is: a=w/1.5=35.54rad/s^2

Am I right?

B
 
Sorry it took so long to respond to your post.

The angular velocity you got is actually the average value over that time period. You need to find the final angular velocity, at the end of the 1.5s time period, before you can use that last formula in your post.

You're almost there.
 
Fermat said:
Sorry it took so long to respond to your post.
The angular velocity you got is actually the average value over that time period. You need to find the final angular velocity, at the end of the 1.5s time period, before you can use that last formula in your post.
You're almost there.

Hey sorry I was busy with 3 exams.
Back to business...

I tried to compute the angular velocity but sorry I don't get it. can you give me more hints please?

thanks
 
The most straightforward approach to this is Work and Energy
... The Work done by the string becomes KE of rotation ...
KE = ½ I w^2 (w = omega_final)
 
You had the average angular velocity. Under constant acceleration, this is just half of the final velocity! (provided the initial velocity is zero)

v_{av} = 0.8m\ /\ 1.5s
v_{av} = 0.5333\ m/s
v_f = 2v_{av} = 1.0667\ m/s

\omega = v/r
\omega_f = v_f/r_{spool}
\omega_f = 1.0667/0.01
\omega_f = 106.667\ rad/sec

To get angular acceln,

\alpha = \omega_f/t
\alpha = 106.667\ /\ 1.5
\alpha = 71.111\ rad/s^2

Now you should get a pretty small value for the inertia of the spool.
 
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