Help with a physics problem, pulleys and acceleration

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The problem involves a window washer using a bucket-pulley system to raise herself. The mass of the system is given as 61 kg, and the discussion centers around the forces involved in raising the washer at constant speed and the subsequent acceleration when the pulling force is increased.

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Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the forces acting on the system, including the upward force exerted by the washer and the downward gravitational force. There are attempts to calculate the net force and acceleration based on varying interpretations of the mass involved and the effects of the pulley system.

Discussion Status

There are multiple interpretations of the problem, particularly regarding the mass of the system and the calculation of net force. Some participants have provided insights into the relationships between tension, weight, and acceleration, while others question the assumptions made about the forces involved.

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Participants highlight potential pitfalls in reasoning related to the pulley system and emphasize the importance of accurately identifying the mass and forces at play. There is an ongoing examination of the correct application of Newton's laws in this context.

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Homework Statement


A window washer pulls herself upward using the bucket-pulley apparatus shown in Fig. 4-48. The mass of the person plus the bucket is 61 kg.

(a) How hard must she pull downward to raise herself slowly at constant speed?
298.9 N
(b) If she increases this force by 12%, what will her acceleration be?
? m/s2

Homework Equations


F=ma
UkFn=ffr

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried...
298.9 x 1.12=334.8
and put it in the equation...
334.8N=(30.5kg)(a)
and got 10.976 m/s2...
which wasn't right...

I used 30.5 instead of 61 because a pulley makes the weight half...
 
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In part (b) the upward force is twice the tension and the downward force is the weight. What is the net force? Once you have the net force, what is the acceleration?
 
the net force comes out to be 35.9N
so then would you do it like...
35.9N = 30.5a
a = 1.18?
 
How do you get 35.9 N? That's not twice the tension minus the weight. Also, 30.5 kg is not the mass of the system. The mass is 61.5 kg.
 
the 35.9 is 334.8 - 298.9, the net force, b/c 334.8 is the force she is pulling upwards and 298.9 is the force of gravity, and in this pulley system, the bucket she is in tied to a rope which is thrown over a pulley and back down to her hand, sorry if that was confusing, but in this case, with the pulley, she only has to pull half her weight.
 
Your way of looking at the problem gives the correct answer, but may lead you into pitfalls with other problems like it. It is best to draw a free-body diagram and get that

2T - mg = ma

from it where T = 334.8N. Basically, your solution divides the above equation by 2.
 

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