Why Are My Calculations for the Window Washer's Pulley System Incorrect?

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a window washer using a pulley system to raise herself. The original poster presents calculations related to the forces acting on the system, specifically addressing the force required to lift the combined weight of the person and the bucket, as well as the resulting acceleration when the pulling force is increased.

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the pulling force and the tension in the rope, questioning how the force is distributed in the pulley system. There are attempts to apply Newton's second law (F=ma) to find the correct acceleration and forces involved.

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Some participants have provided hints and guidance regarding the relationship between forces in the pulley system and the need to consider the net force. There is an ongoing exploration of how to correctly apply the formulas and concepts to arrive at the right answers, with multiple interpretations of the problem being discussed.

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Participants note the importance of understanding how the force is split in the pulley system and clarify that the force of gravity remains constant, which is a critical aspect of the problem. There is also mention of specific percentages related to force increases, which may affect calculations.

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A window washer pulls herself upward using the bucket-pulley apparatus shown in Fig. 4-48.(heres the pic. http://img126.imageshack.us/i/physics.jpg/) The mass of the person plus the bucket is 70 kg.
(a) How hard must she pull downward to raise herself slowly at constant speed?
(b) If she increases this force by 8%, what will her acceleration be?
For some reason i got wrong answers 686.7 N and 10.59 m/s^2, Why?
 
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Don't just give your answers--show how you got them.

Hint: What's the relationship between how hard she pulls on the rope and the tension in the rope? How many times does the rope pull up on the "person+bucket" system?
 
Hi! I am actually working on a question that is pretty much identical, with different number for weight and % of increase. I was able to get part A.. F=m*a, but then you divide the answer by 2, because the force is split on either side of the pulley. I'm having trouble with B though. I tried to sub in the new force (answer+10.1%... or whatever % was in your question) and solve for acceleration using the same formula F=ma, but I'm still not getting the right answer. Please help!
 
PHYCCHICK said:
I'm having trouble with B though. I tried to sub in the new force (answer+10.1%... or whatever % was in your question) and solve for acceleration using the same formula F=ma, but I'm still not getting the right answer. Please help!
Don't forget that F stands for the net force and that gravity doesn't change.
 
I'm confused? If the acceleration remains the same (9.8) then how do I solve for a? And what other forces would be included in the net force?
 
PHYCCHICK said:
If the acceleration remains the same (9.8) then how do I solve for a?
The force of gravity--the weight--remains the same, not the acceleration!
And what other forces would be included in the net force?
Just the weight and the force from the ropes.
 

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