Help with complex number derivation

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This discussion focuses on deriving properties of complex numbers, specifically the multiplication of two complex numbers in polar form. The key conclusion is that the length of the product of two complex numbers, represented as (a+bi)(c+di), is the product of their magnitudes (r1r2), and the angle is the sum of their angles (θ1 + θ2). The discussion also emphasizes the use of trigonometric identities, particularly the tangent of a sum identity, to derive the angle formed by the product.

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Homework Statement


(a) Suppose the segment connecting (a,b) to (0,0) has length r_{1} and forms an angle \theta_{1} with the positive side of the x-axis. Suppose the segment connecting (c,d) to (0,0) has a length r_{2} and forms an angle \theta_{2} with the positive side of the x-axis. Now let (a+bi)(c+di)=x+yi. Show that the length of the segment connecting (x,y) to the origin is r_{1}r_{2} and the angle formed is \theta_{1}+\theta_{2}.

(b) Use the result from (a) to find a complex number z\inC such that z^2=i.

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The Attempt at a Solution


(a+bi)(c+di)=x+yi
ac+adi+bci+bd(i^{2})=x+yi
ac+adi+bci-bd=x+yi
(ac-bd)+(ad+bc)=x+yi
x=(ac-bd), y=(ad+bc)

I'm not sure where to go from here. Just looking for some help. Thanks!
 
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Remember the formulas for going from standard form of a complex number to trig form. If z = a + bi = r(cos θ + i sin θ), then
r = \sqrt{a^2 + b^2},
a = r cos θ and b = r sin θ, and
\tan \theta = \frac{b}{a}.

If x=(ac-bd) and y=(ad+bc), then what is
\sqrt{x^2 + y^2}? You'll need to make it equal to r1r2.

For the angle, you'll need the tangent of a sum identity.
\tan (\theta_1 + \theta_2) = \frac{\tan \theta_1 + \tan \theta_2}{1 - \tan \theta_1 \tan \theta_2}
 
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eumyang said:
Remember the formulas for going from standard form of a complex number to trig form. If z = a + bi = r(cos θ + i sin θ), then
r = \sqrt{a^2 + b^2},
a = r cos θ and b = r sin θ, and
\tan \theta = \frac{b}{a}.

If x=(ac-bd) and y=(ad+bc), then what is
\sqrt{x^2 + y^2}? You'll need to make it equal to r1r2.

For the angle, you'll need the tangent of a sum identity.
\tan (\theta_1 + \theta_2) = \frac{\tan \theta_1 + \tan \theta_2}{1 - \tan \theta_1 \tan \theta_2}

I'm honestly not getting very far with this. Could you help me out a little more?
 
Ok, I got the first part. Now I need to prove the angle part. Any help?
 
eumyang said:
If x=(ac-bd) and y=(ad+bc), then what is
\sqrt{x^2 + y^2}?
Start with this. Plug in what x and y equals into the square root and expand the radicand. Show us what you get.

EDIT: Never mind. You said that you got this part.
eumyang said:
For the angle, you'll need the tangent of a sum identity.
\tan (\theta_1 + \theta_2) = \frac{\tan \theta_1 + \tan \theta_2}{1 - \tan \theta_1 \tan \theta_2}
\tan \theta_1 = \frac{b}{a}
and
\tan \theta_2 = \frac{d}{c}
Plug these into the formula above and simplify. Somehow you'll have to simplify to y/x. (Remember that you had x and y can be expressed in terms of a, b, c, and d.)
 
eumyang said:
Start with this. Plug in what x and y equals into the square root and expand the radicand. Show us what you get.

EDIT: Never mind. You said that you got this part.



\tan \theta_1 = \frac{b}{a}
and
\tan \theta_2 = \frac{d}{c}
Plug these into the formula above and simplify. Somehow you'll have to simplify to y/x. (Remember that you had x and y can be expressed in terms of a, b, c, and d.)

Hmmm...

After I plug those in, what methods can I use to simply that expression?
 
After plugging those in, try multiplying the numerator and denominator of this complex fraction by ac.

(Going to bed now... :zzz:)
 

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