How Do Friction and Inclination Affect Rock Movement on a Hill?

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The discussion revolves around the effects of friction and inclination on the movement of rocks sliding on a hill. The hill is inclined at 36 degrees, and the problem involves calculating the acceleration of the rocks as they slide uphill and determining their behavior at the highest point.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the use of free-body diagrams to analyze forces acting on the rocks. There are questions about the direction of the friction force in relation to gravitational components and whether the initial equation for acceleration is applicable in both uphill and downhill scenarios.

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Some participants are seeking clarification on the correct application of forces and the resulting equations. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationship between the forces acting on the rocks and the implications for their motion, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach or solution.

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Some sliding rocks approach the base of a hill with a speed of 12 m/s. The hill rises at 36 degrees above the horizontal and has coefficients of kinetic and static friction of .45 and .65, respectively, with these rocks. Start each part of your solution to this problem with a free-body diagram. (a) Find the acceleration of the rocks as they slide up the hill. (b) Once a rock reaches the highest point, will it stay there or slide downhill? If it stays there, show hy. If it slides down, find its acceleration on the way down.



Homework Equations

a(x)=g(sin(degrees)-(kinetic coefficient)(cos degrees)) ?



The Attempt at a Solution

acceleration= 9.8 (.22)
=2.19 m/s^2

Not sure, how to do the second part, or whether my answer to the first part is right. Thanks for any help.
 
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SoulInNeed said:

Homework Equations

a(x)=g(sin(degrees)-(kinetic coefficient)(cos degrees)) ?
The rocks are sliding in the uphill direction. Look at your free-body diagram (I am assuming you drew one, if not then please do draw one :smile:) and answer this: do the two force components, mg·sinθ and the friction force, act in the same direction or in opposite directions? I.e., do they point uphill or downhill, or does one point uphill while the other points downhill?

Would this change the equation you have written above?
 
Well, for something going downhill, that's the equation, so I thought it would work the same way going uphill, no?
 
No. Draw the free-body diagram. Think carefully about the direction of the friction force.
 
Is it a(x)=-g(u(k)cos(degrees)+sin(degrees))?
 
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SoulInNeed said:
Is it a(x)=-g(u(k)cos(degrees)+sin(degrees))?
Yes.
 

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