Help with Kinematics Problem (Two bodies in motion; one direction)

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The problem involves a train and a car in motion, where the train starts from rest with constant acceleration and the car moves with a constant velocity. The scenario describes specific time intervals during which the car and train interact, including the car reaching the front of the train and later being overtaken by the train.

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  • Participants discuss the setup of the problem, noting the initial conditions and the interactions between the train and car at specified times. There are attempts to break the problem into parts to analyze the motion, and questions arise regarding the implications of the train's movement on the car's travel distance.

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The discussion reflects confusion regarding the relationships between the distances traveled by both vehicles and the timing of their interactions. Some participants express uncertainty about how to approach the problem due to the multiple unknowns involved, while others attempt to clarify the situation by emphasizing the train's motion during the time intervals.

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Participants note the challenge posed by the train's acceleration and the car's constant velocity, which complicates the calculations. There is a recognition that the problem requires careful consideration of the distances involved at different times, particularly as the train moves while the car attempts to catch up.

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1. A train has a length of 92m and starts from rest with a constant acceleration at t= 0s. At this instant, a car just reaches the end of the train. The car is moving with a constant velocity. At t=12sec the car just reaches the front of the train. Ultimately, the train pulls ahead of car and at t=28sec, the car is at the end of the train once again. Find the magnitude of (a) the car's velocity; (b) the trains acceleration.

One thing to note is that is at time 0, the train is at rest and while the car is already at constant velocity. The train begins motion after time 0. Therefore, both vehicles start to move at time zero which is why this problem is a bit hard for me.

d= Vit+1/2(at2)
Vf2=Vi2+2ad
Vf=Vi+at 3. How do I go about solving this. I tried splitting the problem into three parts. Part 1- car reaches the the back of the train at time 0. Part 2- car passes the train completely. Part 3- train passes the car.

I tried doing algebraic manipulation to get like Vf and Vi but i am for the car but I am working with too many unknowns for my liking and it doesn't help.

Any help from the physics community here would be lovely :D
 
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pharmacy_boy said:
1. A train has a length of 92m and starts from rest with a constant acceleration at t= 0s. At this instant, a car just reaches the end of the train. The car is moving with a constant velocity. At t=12sec the car just reaches the front of the train. Ultimately, the train pulls ahead of car and at t=28sec, the car is at the end of the train once again. Find the magnitude of (a) the car's velocity; (b) the trains acceleration.


d= Vit+1/2(at2)
Vf2=Vi2+2ad
Vf=Vi+at


3. How do I go about solving this. I tried splitting the problem into three parts. Part 1- car reaches the the back of the train at time 0. Part 2- car passes the train completely. Part 3- train passes the car.

I tried doing algebraic manipulation to get like Vf and Vi but i am for the car but I am working with too many unknowns for my liking and it doesn't help.

Any help from the physics community here would be lovely :D

Your explanation of Part 2 doesn't seem to recognise that at 12 seconds the car reaches the front of the train, but the train has by then reached the speed of the train.

"At t=12sec the car just reaches the front of the train".

I hope that is enough to help.
 
PeterO said:
Your explanation of Part 2 doesn't seem to recognise that at 12 seconds the car reaches the front of the train, but the train has by then reached the speed of the train.

"At t=12sec the car just reaches the front of the train".

I hope that is enough to help.

yes, I understand that. This question would be easy if the train wasnt moving. But it is. Since the train is 92 meters. The distance the car would have to travel to catch up to the train at t=12 is 92+x meters. Because in those 12 seconds, the train is moving too.
 
So, i am still confused :(
 
help please :'(
 

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