Minimum deceleration to prevent a collision

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The discussion centers on determining the minimum deceleration, denoted as d, required to prevent a collision between two cars. Car 1, moving at a constant velocity, begins to brake with deceleration d, while Car 2, initially behind it, also brakes with the same deceleration upon seeing Car 1 stop. The equations of motion for both cars reveal that if they decelerate at the same rate, their relative velocity remains unchanged, leading to a collision if Car 2 starts with a higher velocity than Car 1. The critical value of d is derived as d = (v2^2 - v1^2) / (2L), indicating that if d exceeds this value, Car 2 will collide with Car 1 regardless of its initial speed. The discussion highlights the importance of analyzing the stopping distances and the timing of each car's deceleration to avoid collisions.
  • #31
PKM said:
By the way, we see that if ##d## is lesser than a certain value the back car will hit the front one. We still don't know if the front car is in motion on not when the back car hits it. Can you figure out the condition that the back car collides the front one, when front car is still moving?
That goes back to post #1.
 
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haruspex said:
That goes back to post #1.
Why?
I actually meant to find the condition that the collision occurs before car 1 comes to rest. That wasn't asked in the question. The collision may occur when car 1 has already stopped, or still running. I asked about finding out a constraint to ensure which one occurs. Does it make sense now?
 
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  • #33
PKM said:
Why?
Because the approach there assumed the two SUVAT equations quoted applied up to the point of collision. That was not valid for the original question but is true for the question you pose.
 
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PKM said:
By the way, we see that if ##d## is lesser than a certain value the back car will hit the front one. We still don't know if the front car is in motion on not when the back car hits it. Can you figure out the condition that the back car collides the front one, when front car is still moving?
The time it takes for the front car to stop is ##t_{1}=\frac{v_{1}}{2d}##. Assuming that both cars are decelerating the collision time is ##t_{collision}=\frac{L}{v_{2}-v_{1}}##. This time is smaller or equal to ##t_{1}## if ##d< \frac{v_{1}}{v_{1}+v_{2}}d_{critical}## where ##d_{critical}=\frac{v_{2}^{2}-v_{1}^{2}}{2L}##.
This is the range of ##d## for which the back car will hit the front car while the front car is still moving. This means that for ##\frac{v_{1}}{v_{1}+v_{2}}d_{critical}\leq d<d_{critical}## the back car will collide with a stopped front car.
 
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