Help With Momentum Conservation & Football Collision

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The discussion revolves around the conservation of momentum in two scenarios involving collisions: one with figure skaters on a frictionless surface and another with a football collision between a fullback and a linebacker. Participants are exploring the implications of momentum conservation and the effects of mass and velocity on the outcomes of these collisions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to analyze a recoil problem involving two skaters and questions where to start. They express confusion about their calculated time and seek clarification on the velocity of skater #1 after the push. Another participant corrects the original poster's interpretation of forces versus momentum in the football collision scenario, prompting further exploration of the reasoning behind the outcomes.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with each other's reasoning, with some providing corrections and clarifications. There is an ongoing examination of the calculations and the underlying principles of momentum conservation, though no consensus has been reached on the final interpretations.

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Participants are working within the constraints of homework guidelines, which may limit the depth of exploration and the types of assistance provided. There is a noted confusion regarding units and the correct application of momentum principles in both scenarios.

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Hi guys would need some help here, not sure if I did it right cause recently I got so lost/confused in the class, just out of no where. I always understood most of the stuff and the thing that irritates me is that it doesn`t seem hard at all. So here goes.

Conservation Of Momentum

1) Two figure skaters are facing each other, with their palms together.Both skaters are intially at rest on a frictionless surface. The 1st skater has a mass of 40kg and the 2nd skater has a mass of 60kg. 1st skater pushes off of skater ( 2nd one ) in such a way that skater #1 moves left and skater #2 moves right. After the puss off skater #2 moves with velocity of 6m/s. Determine the direction and volecity of skater #1 after the push.

Now this is as far as I know a recoil problem. Where do I start at ? I came up with an answer of 9 seconds but the way I did it looks way too easy. Could some one help me out with this one ?

Here`s another one.

2) A 100kg fullback is running due west with a velocity of 10m/s. At the goal line he collides head-on with a 120kg linebacker, moving due east at 8m/s. Based on the info given, does the fullback drive the linebacker into the end zone or is he pushed backwards by the linebacker ? Explain the reasoning.

I found the forces of both runners.

  • Fullback - 1000N
  • Linebacker -960N

So the fullback should make it into the end zone, cause he is running with bigger force than the linebacker.
 
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DLT said:
1) Two figure skaters are facing each other, with their palms together.Both skaters are intially at rest on a frictionless surface. The 1st skater has a mass of 40kg and the 2nd skater has a mass of 60kg. 1st skater pushes off of skater ( 2nd one ) in such a way that skater #1 moves left and skater #2 moves right. After the puss off skater #2 moves with velocity of 6m/s. Determine the direction and volecity of skater #1 after the push.

Now this is as far as I know a recoil problem. Where do I start at ? I came up with an answer of 9 seconds but the way I did it looks way too easy. Could some one help me out with this one ?
Well nine seconds isn't correct.
DLT said:
2) A 100kg fullback is running due west with a velocity of 10m/s. At the goal line he collides head-on with a 120kg linebacker, moving due east at 8m/s. Based on the info given, does the fullback drive the linebacker into the end zone or is he pushed backwards by the linebacker ? Explain the reasoning.

I found the forces of both runners.

  • Fullback - 1000N
  • Linebacker -960N

So the fullback should make it into the end zone, cause he is running with bigger force than the linebacker.
No, you didn't calculate the forces, you calculated their momenta. Since the fullback had a greater momentum than the linebacker, when the two collide their resultant momentum (assuming they stick together) will be in the same direction as the fullback is traveling (by conservation of momentum). Therefore, your conclusion is correct, but your reasoning is wrong.
 
Thanks for the answer. Now would this drawing work to support my reasoning. I changed the units as you said that I was wrong.

Before collision
960kg m/s ------> <------ 1000kg m/s​

After collision
<------ 40kg m/s​

Hootenanny said:
Well nine seconds isn't correct.

By making "seconds" red do you mean that the "number" I got is right but my units are wrong ? It should be 9m/s.
 
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DLT said:
Thanks for the answer. Now would this drawing work to support my reasoning. I changed the units as you said that I was wrong.

Before collision
960kg m/s ------> <------ 1000kg m/s​

After collision
<------ 40kg m/s​
Much better :approve:
DLT said:
By making "seconds" red do you mean that the "number" I got is right but my units are wrong ? It should be 9m/s.
Looks better, but don't forget to take account of the direction...
 

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