Help with U Substitution for integral of cos(pi/x^11) / x^12

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The discussion revolves around the integral of cos(pi/x^11) divided by x^12, focusing on finding an appropriate u substitution for solving the integral.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore potential u substitutions, including u=pi/x^11 and u=x^12, while discussing the implications of each choice on the derivative and the integral's structure.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, questioning the correctness of their derivatives and the necessity of including dx in their substitutions. There is a recognition of the challenges posed by the original equation and the need to simplify expressions to find a viable approach.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about whether the problem requires u substitution or integration by parts, indicating a lack of clarity in the problem setup.

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I don't have a way of getting the equation to look nice but it's:

integral of cos(pi/x^11) / x^12




I am having issues even finding what I could use as a U substitution. Any help would be great!
 
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Thing causing trouble is cos(pi/x^11) / x^12
 
How about u=pi/x^11?
 
Dick said:
How about u=pi/x^11?

problem with that is when you take the derivative, you don't have the dx int he problem.

i'm almost certain the U has to equal x^12 as then du would then be 11x^11 and you can divide that by 11 and stick a 1/11 out front. I just don't know how to get du out of that stupid fraction. unless I'm going about it completely wrong and it's not a U substitution and it's a by parts question.
 
If u=pi/x^11 then what do you think is du?
 
(-11pi*x^10) / x^11

if I used the quotient rule correctly
 
You forgot to square the denominator.
 
Dick said:
You forgot to square the denominator.

it looks like i did, i forgot the derivate of pi was zero, haha. dumb on my part.

but that doesn't get me anywhere because no where in the original problem is the du. i have to get rid of that 1/x^12 somehow.
 
Simplify (-11pi*x^10) / (x^11)^2.
 
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Dick said:
Simplify (-11pi*x^10) / (x^11)^2.

wow, can't believe i missed that. thanks for all your help, i'll post up my answer here in a couple minutes.
 
  • #11
-1/11pi * sin(pi/x^11) + C
 
  • #12
Looks ok to me.
 

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