Helping a Friend After a Bike Accident

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The discussion revolves around the aftermath of a bike accident involving a friend who sustained scrapes and experienced symptoms such as wooziness, visual disturbances, and ringing in the ears. Participants explore potential causes for these symptoms, including dehydration, internal injury, and the use of hydrogen peroxide on wounds.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the use of hydrogen peroxide topically would not cause the symptoms described by the friend.
  • Another participant proposes that dehydration from exertion, especially in hot conditions, could explain the friend's symptoms.
  • Some participants mention the possibility of trauma from the fall contributing to the symptoms, even if the head did not hit the ground.
  • There is a suggestion that muscle damage could release potassium into the bloodstream, potentially affecting the friend's condition.
  • One participant advises monitoring the friend for signs of internal bleeding, particularly if he feels excessively thirsty.
  • Another participant notes that the wooziness could be a response to adrenaline and overexertion following the fall.
  • Concerns are raised about ensuring the friend's mother, a nurse, is informed about the incident to monitor his condition effectively.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various hypotheses regarding the cause of the symptoms, indicating that there is no consensus on a single explanation. Multiple competing views remain about the potential reasons for the friend's condition.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include uncertainty regarding the extent of the friend's injuries and the effects of hydrogen peroxide on the body, as well as the lack of immediate medical evaluation.

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ok, my friend and i were riding bikes, when he fell, getting scrapped up knees, and a scraped chest when he hit the handlebars with his rib. he was able to ride to my house (1.5 km). when he got there, we cleaned his wounds with hydrogen peroxide (H2O2) and bandaged them. then, he got woozy, and couldn't see to well, also complained that stuff was turning purple. his ears were ringing, too. he asked for water, and had about 2 liters. then, 5 minutes after it started, it was over and he was just worn out, but that's all. he said that he never hit his head. could he have been dehydrated, could it be internal injury, or could it be the fact that we forgot about the warning about using H2O2 over a large area of the body/deep cuts?

Fibonacci

P.S. I'm not a crazy mass-murderer, like you may have thought in the "dispose of a dead body" thread, i just have a dark sense of humor.
 
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ok, my friend and i were riding bikes, when he fell, getting scrapped up knees, and a scraped chest when he hit the handlebars with his rib. he was able to ride to my house (1.5 km). when he got there, we cleaned his wounds with hydrogen peroxide (H2O2) and bandaged them. then, he got woozy, and couldn't see to well, also complained that stuff was turning purple. his ears were ringing, too. he asked for water, and had about 2 liters. then, 5 minutes after it started, it was over and he was just worn out, but that's all. he said that he never hit his head. could he have been dehydrated, could it be internal injury, or could it be the fact that we forgot about the warning about using H2O2 over a large area of the body/deep cuts?

Fibonacci

P.S. I'm not a crazy mass-murderer, like you may have thought in the "dispose of a dead body" thread, i just have a dark sense of humor.

Any one that uses a number for a handle must be iffy. :biggrin:
 
Using hydrogen peroxide topically (externally) would not cause someone to feel the way your friend was feeling.

It is possible from the exertion your friend was somewhat dehydrated, especially it is hot and your friend was perspiring. Also, simply increasing body temperature may cause that effect, as well as some trauma due to the injury.

Even if your friend's head did not hit the ground (or pavement), the head will receive some force from the body hitting the ground.

Any muscle damage may release some potassium to the blood stream, and this could also have an effect.

Keep an eye on your friend. People with internal bleeding will feel thirsty if blood loss is sufficient.

During hot summer months, it is best to acclimatize one's body to the heat gradually, especially if one is accustomed to being in-doors with air-conditioning. It is also a good idea to drink something like Gatorade or equivalent drink which contains the right balance of electrolytes (both Na and K), as well as some sugars.
 
Yeah, since he hit his chest, keep an eye on him and make sure he isn't more seriously injured than he's letting on. But, other than that, he could have just been rattled by the fall and the wooziness was a response to the adrenaline combined with some overexertion.
 
thanks all. i won't see him again until tommorow or the day after, so i don't know how he is doing right now. his mom's a nurse, so i think that she knows more about medical stuff than I.

fibonacci
 
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thanks all. i won't see him again until tommorow or the day after, so i don't know how he is doing right now. his mom's a nurse, so i think that she knows more about medical stuff than I.

fibonacci
And he told her what happened, right? Otherwise she might not know to keep an eye on him.
 
its kinda hard to miss
 

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