Here Comes Irene: Flood Prep & Rain Expectations

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The discussion revolves around preparations for the approaching storm Irene, focusing on safety measures, supplies, and personal experiences related to hurricanes. Participants share their strategies for dealing with potential flooding, power outages, and other impacts of severe weather.

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  • Some participants discuss the importance of having sufficient drinking water and supplies for at least three days, with suggestions for filling bathtubs for utility purposes.
  • Concerns are raised about the potential for power outages and the need for alternative cooking methods, such as using candles or portable burners.
  • There are varying opinions on the effectiveness of taping windows for protection against flying debris, with some suggesting packing tape as a possible solution.
  • Participants share personal anecdotes about past experiences with hurricanes, including makeshift cooking methods and the challenges of living without electricity.
  • Some express humor regarding the situation, while others emphasize the seriousness of storm preparations.
  • Suggestions for additional supplies include generators, candles, and battery-operated fans, with some participants noting the difficulty in acquiring generators due to high demand.
  • There are discussions about the safety of staying near windows during storms and the importance of having a safe room without windows.

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Participants generally agree on the need for thorough preparation for the storm, but there are multiple competing views on specific strategies and supplies. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best methods for ensuring safety and comfort during the storm.

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Some participants mention the unpredictability of storm impacts and the importance of adapting preparations based on local conditions. There are references to past experiences that highlight the variability of hurricane effects.

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Individuals living in hurricane-prone areas, those interested in emergency preparedness, and anyone seeking practical advice on storm preparations may find this discussion beneficial.

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The eye, or what's left of it, is suppose to graze us on Sunday evening. But were already getting some good rains today.

It look likes we're in for three days of rain. That usually means a fair amount of flooding in our area.

Good thing we got a basement flood protection system. :rolleyes:
 
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Irene, goodnight Irene, I'll see you in my dreams.

The latest forecast has Irene making a path directly through the sliding door in my den and out the front door on its way to Maine. I bought two gallons of water and filled the car with gas. I have a flashlight and fresh batteries. The laptop and cell phone run on batteries so I'll have that for communication. What am I forgetting?
 


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Jimmy Snyder said:
The latest forecast has Irene making a path directly through the sliding door in my den and out the front door on its way to Maine. I bought two gallons of water and filled the car with gas. I have a flashlight and fresh batteries. The laptop and cell phone run on batteries so I'll have that for communication. What am I forgetting?
Everything else requires electricity.

I thought of that song, too.
 


Jimmy Snyder said:
The latest forecast has Irene making a path directly through the sliding door in my den and out the front door on its way to Maine. I bought two gallons of water and filled the car with gas. I have a flashlight and fresh batteries. The laptop and cell phone run on batteries so I'll have that for communication. What am I forgetting?
Did you stock up on your favorite foods, tape the windows, don't forget car adaptors for cell phones. They even sell briefcase size generators at Target to run small appliances and computers. I take it they are just large rechargeable battery packs, but not a bad idea.

For some reason every time we had a hurricane down in Houston, they said to fill the bathtubs with water, but I don't ever remember the water shutting off, I guess if a pumping station went down it might matter.

Candles, you must have candles! A chafing dish with sterno is fun if the power goes out. Talk about a romantic dinner!
 


Thanks Evo.

Q: Did you stock up on your favorite foods?
A: Yes, What do you figure, 20,000 calories a day? Actually, We have lots of canned goods. I have no idea how we'll cook them though.

Q: Tape the windows?
A: No, but I'm thinking about it.

Q: Don't forget car adaptors for cell phones.
A: Thanks for reminding me of that, I do have one.

Q: Generator?
A: No, and that means that anything in the fridge will go bad quickly. The people at Sears told me that they no longer sell generators, and now they've got customers clamoring for them.

Q: Candles?
A: Yes, my wife uses tea candles by the hundreds so we're well stocked.
 


Jimmy Snyder said:
Thanks Evo.

Q: Did you stock up on your favorite foods?
A: Yes, What do you figure, 20,000 calories a day? Actually, We have lots of canned goods. I have no idea how we'll cook them though.

Q: Tape the windows?
A: No, but I'm thinking about it.

Q: Don't forget car adaptors for cell phones.
A: Thanks for reminding me of that, I do have one.

Q: Generator?
A: No, and that means that anything in the fridge will go bad quickly. The people at Sears told me that they no longer sell generators, and now they've got customers clamoring for them.

Q: Candles?
A: Yes, my wife uses tea candles by the hundreds so we're well stocked.
You're all set, now just hope that the electricity doesn't go out for long and the kids get bored.

Oh, do you have a lot of trees? A chain saw is a good thing to have. And if a power line goes down in your yard, DO NOT GO OUTSIDE!

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/01/3-killed-in-backyard-electrocution-identified.html
 


Battery operated fans, a couple more gallons of water, duct tape (not really necessary...some people used to use it to tape windows... but everyone buys it when a hurricane is coming). Do you have enough ice?
 


If they don't sell gas generators, maybe a wind powered generator?

giggle.
 
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lol that was funny Penguwino.
 
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Jimmy Snyder said:
Q: Did you stock up on your favorite foods?
A: Yes, What do you figure, 20,000 calories a day? Actually, We have lots of canned goods. I have no idea how we'll cook them though.
Sterno burners, don't get hot enough to really cook with, but useful to heat things with. You can barely boil water with if you wait long enough. They're fairly cheap too.

Q: Tape the windows?
A: No, but I'm thinking about it.
Packing tape would work, at least if the windows blow, it may help keep shards from flying about. Getting it off any windows that don't may be tricky, but probably worth the safety step.

Q: Candles?
A: Yes, my wife uses tea candles by the hundreds so we're well stocked.

A lighter, zippo and matches. Candles are great, until you realize you can't light them.
 
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Our electricity here would go out every time it snowed. I had a couple of those big 3 wick candles, and got the little metal grate out of the toaster oven, put it over the candle, and cooked with it. It can actually boil water and "fry" stuff. I also rigged the fireplace as a stove. A couple of bricks and a barbecue grate and voila! but for small things, the candle did the job. Also, candles do a good job of warming a room. I put the girls in my room and had dozens of candles going, not bad.

For light, if you have mirrors, place the candles on them, the reflected light adds so much. Even sheets of aluminum foil will help. If you are walking through a dark room, pointing the flashlight up at the ceiling will illuminate the room better than pointing it down at the floor.

Yes, I've been without electricty a LOT.
 
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it's about time someone posted about ... OMG! we're going to DIE! :cry:
"The worst storm of our lifetime."
 
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I keep several lamps that can use either liquid paraffin or oil. Reading by lamplight is nifty.
 
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Well NOW we hear that NYU and the VA hospital will be evacuated and those are where we were going in the event of an event and we are event family. Open to suggestions.
 
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Astronuc said:
The eye, or what's left of it, is suppose to graze us on Sunday evening. But were already getting some good rains today.

It look likes we're in for three days of rain. That usually means a fair amount of flooding in our area.

Good thing we got a basement flood protection system. :rolleyes:

Should be an interesting Sunday chat then.

I've only been through one notahurricane in my life. It was down in Cabo. Impressed the hell out of me. Went from 3 to 2 to 1 and then sub-hurricane by the time it hit.

But 70 mph winds wizzing by your hot tub is pretty impressive, with the palm tree's spewing coconut's horizontally, rain falling horizontally, and, um, well, everything was pretty much moving 90 degrees out of sync with where it should have been.

My sister took a video that night. Might make a good U-tube for you to watch.

If you survive...

Hold on Astro.
 
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I just wrote a post and got one of those bad gateway messages -_-

I was saying that one of the most annoying things after a bad hurricane is no water. It is good to have enough drinking water for at least three days. Usually the water is restored before the power, especially if the power lines are above ground. It is ideal to have at least a week worth of drinking water just in case there is a boil water order when the water is restored and you have nothing to boil water with (those little camping gas burners come in handy). Having tubs filled with water is really good for utility (flushing toilets, washing hands, etc.). And if the storm is a cat4 when it hits and your windows are not hurricane windows, it is best to stay away from them and weather the storm in a room with no windows. Sometimes the storm can pass ok with no damage to the windows, but it is much better to be safe than sorry :)
 
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Astronuc said:
Good thing we got a basement flood protection system. :rolleyes:

The sound of that reminds me of either a mop or a very dry sheepdog who likes rolling around on wet floors.
 
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Lacy33 said:
Well NOW we hear that NYU and the VA hospital will be evacuated and those are where we were going in the event of an event and we are event family. Open to suggestions.

When in trouble,
When in doubt,
Run in circles,
Scream and Shout!
 
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Jimmy Snyder said:
The latest forecast has Irene making a path directly through the sliding door in my den and out the front door on its way to Maine. I bought two gallons of water and filled the car with gas. I have a flashlight and fresh batteries. The laptop and cell phone run on batteries so I'll have that for communication. What am I forgetting?

Life vest.
 
  • #21
Lobstermen are hauling out barges of their traps and seeking safe for harbor their boats. There are some regulations regarding when you can pull traps, but I understand those have been waived to allow the fishermen to recover as much gear as possible. Also, you don't want traps ripped from their buoys to remain on the bottom, trapping more lobsters and damaging the population. Inland, we probably will have nothing to deal with but heavy rain IF the remnants of Irene hits.

The morning after the remnants of Bob rolled through here, some friends and I headed north to fly-fish a short catch-and-release river that features some big brookies. Glad we brought the chain-saw and bow-saw. We had to resort to them frequently just to get the roads passable. Early morning, and the road crews had not yet gotten around to clearing trees off the roads.
 
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Good luck, all you people up in the Northeast. I feel a bit guilty that all we're going to see here in northwestern South Carolina is maybe a couple of bands of light clouds.

The closest we've come in the time I've been here was Hugo in '89 which came ashore near Charleston and passed about 60 miles to the east of us, about 150 miles in from the coast. All the streets were carpeted with small tree branches, but there was no major damage.
 
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Jimmy Snyder said:
The latest forecast has Irene making a path directly through the sliding door in my den and out the front door on its way to Maine. I bought two gallons of water and filled the car with gas. I have a flashlight and fresh batteries. The laptop and cell phone run on batteries so I'll have that for communication. What am I forgetting?
Do you have enough wood for a cooking fire and some hot-dogs?
 
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turbo said:
Do you have enough wood for a cooking fire and some hot-dogs?
Yes, my house has a working fireplace and I have plenty of wood that I cut up from fallen branches on my property so I'm good. We even have a few hot dogs, but I am relying on food that doesn't need to be refrigerated.
 
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Insanity said:
A lighter, zippo and matches. Candles are great, until you realize you can't light them.
Light-anywhere matches are a must! The ones that only light on the striker-strip on the side of the box may be useless if your'e in an adverse situation. Get strike-anywhere matches and store some in a nice sealed plastic container where you can get at them when you need them. You can light them up on about any solid rough surface.

In HS I had a friend who used to lug a bunch of them around in his pants pocket, and that was NOT a good idea. He said something sassy to his GF, and she slapped him on the leg. That's when his pants burst into flames. He didn't get burned too badly, but nobody let him forget stripping to his tighty-whities in the hall, panicking and hollering all the time.
 
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Jimmy Snyder said:
but I am relying on food that doesn't need to be refrigerated.
Got Twinkies?
 
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turbo said:
Got Twinkies?
Good idea. It's got a shelf life of 100 years.
 
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Jimmy Snyder said:
Good idea. It's got a shelf life of 100 years.
I think they are rated at 17 years, but that should get you through the weekend and a couple of days with intermittent power.
 
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We just received the tropical storm warning - already. IRENE is about 870 miles SSW of us.

Counties sound of us got a hurricane warning.
 
  • #30
wuliheron said:
When in trouble,
When in doubt,
Run in circles,
Scream and Shout!

OK, did that. Next?
 

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