Hermitian Operators: Homework Equations & Attempt at a Solution

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the properties and manipulation of Hermitian operators in quantum mechanics, specifically focusing on the expectation value involving the square of an operator.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of integral forms and the manipulation of equations involving operators. Questions arise about specific techniques, such as the "resolution of the identity" and the application of Dirac notation. There is also a focus on expressing the expectation value and the action of operators on wavefunctions.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, sharing insights and suggestions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the manipulation of operators and the use of Dirac notation, though there remains uncertainty about specific steps and techniques. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to clarify concepts and approaches.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of different textbooks being used, with one participant expressing unfamiliarity with certain concepts and notation, indicating a potential gap in foundational knowledge that may affect their approach to the problem.

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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


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The Attempt at a Solution


I've gone round in circles doing this! I started of by writing it as an integral of (psi* x A_hat2 x psi) w.r.t dx, then using the equation above but I keep coming back at my original equation after flipping it around. Are there any tricks in particular that I should know when dealing with squares of operators? Or any assumptions that I need to make? Please help :(
 
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It may help to insert a "resolution of the identity" (as Shankar calls it). The operators can be treated in terms of their "matrix elements" on the Hilbert space, which is the space of the functions, Ψ, on which the operators act.

Are you familiar with the Dirac (bra-ket) notation? I would start with Dirac notation, and then simply insert the appropriate identity resolutions.
 
What's a resolution of the identity? I don't have the Shankar text. We use Griffiths in class... No unfortunately I'm not too familiar with Dirac Notation :(. I know roughly what it is but I'm not confident in using it just yet. So far we've just been taught the integral form. I think we're just meant to manipulate the equation till we get to be the required function but I've tried that several times without getting anywhere
 
OK. The first thing to do is to express the expectation value explicitly. Then, split A2 into factors of A. Then, use your definition for Hermiticity in a clever way.
 
I've done the first two steps. It's the third that I'm having trouble with.
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What do I do from here? :s
 
You didn't really do the second step, then. Think of the action of each A independently. That is, think of the action of the first A on the wavefunction as producing a new wavefunction, and then the other A acts on this new wavefunction.
 
Ahh ok I see :). Thanks. Gosh it seems really easy now.
 

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