Hi there, just registered and desperate to learn physics/mathematics

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The discussion centers around a newcomer, Josh, seeking guidance on how to begin learning physics and mathematics, particularly in relation to astronomy. Participants provide suggestions for books, online resources, and strategies for understanding complex topics, while also engaging in light-hearted conversation.

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  • Exploratory
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  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • Josh expresses a strong desire to learn physics and mathematics but feels overwhelmed and unsure of where to start.
  • Some participants suggest starting with conceptual books, such as "Theoretical Minimum" and "The Feynman Lectures," as well as exploring MIT's OpenCourseWare for lecture notes.
  • There is a recommendation to begin with general topics and use Wikipedia to explore links that seem interesting, allowing for a self-directed learning path.
  • One participant emphasizes the vastness of astronomy and its branches, noting that mastery of all information is unrealistic.
  • Several participants engage in light-hearted banter about favorite fish, contributing to a welcoming atmosphere.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of starting with foundational texts and exploring topics of interest, but there is no consensus on a singular best approach or resource for learning.

Contextual Notes

Some suggestions depend on individual learning preferences and prior knowledge, and the effectiveness of different resources may vary among learners.

Who May Find This Useful

Newcomers to physics and mathematics, individuals interested in astronomy, and those seeking community support in their learning journey.

The Void
Hey people! My names Josh and have always had an interest in the natural world, physics, and most especially, astronomy and all its related fields. Unfortunately, it stopped there and remained simply as an interest, mere dabblings in fields of knowledge that I really had no comprehension of above the most basic level (preferring to be an ignorant child playing on his xbox all day, neglecting his studies). However recently, over the past couple of years, and with the discovery of Mr Carl Sagan, I have developed an overwhelming hankering for knowledge and understanding on these subjects, but I don't have the foggiest idea of where to start? How to go about learning them? What books to read? Websites? Any help and/or guidance would be greatly, greatly appreciated, though I understand how tiresome these sort of threads must be so I'm really sorry :/

Thanks,
Josh
 
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So, how much (or little) physics do you know? How much math do you know?

It may be best to start with a conceptual book, such as this

https://www.amazon.com/dp/0321568095/?tag=pfamazon01-20

You don't need the newest edition, you can find one on amazon that is a little older and more cheap. Just start there, and that should keep you busy for a while.
 
Hi, Josh!
You also need to tell us what your favourite fish is!
:smile:
 
Ah yes, fish yes. What's your favourite fish?
 
Hey, sorry for only just messaging back, been kinda busy.

Woopydalan said:
So, how much (or little) physics do you know? How much math do you know?

So little its laughable compared to probably everyone here :/, but I'm absolutely desperate to learn and willing to put the effort in, as I've already mentioned.

Enigman said:
Try this:
Theoratical minimum: What you need to know to start doing physics
https://www.amazon.com/dp/046502811X/?tag=pfamazon01-20

Right, I've just bought this book and it does look comprehensible compared to everything else I've been reading. However, are there any other sources on the Internet I could go to for additional assistance? Also, when learning these sorts of subjects what is the best way to memorise (and, more importantly, understand) the information and all the various theory's and hypotheses? I know that might seem a frivolous question, but I'd just like to know input by people who are knowledgeable on it and have went through this learning process.


arildno said:
Hi, Josh!
You also need to tell us what your favourite fish is!
:smile:

My favourite fish? Errm, Great white shark? But if you're talking more ray-finned fishes then I'd probably say the lionfish.
 
The Void said:
Hey, sorry for only just messaging back, been kinda busy. ...

My favourite fish? Errm, Great white shark? But if you're talking more ray-finned fishes then I'd probably say the lionfish.
I'll do the honor.

http://files.myopera.com/Chyren/files/fishSlap1a.gif

You are now officially initiated as a PF member. Congratulations. :biggrin:
 
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Welcome, Void!

Please don't feel embarrassed about how little you know. Everyone here: 1) is hoping to be at your level some day, 2) is exactly at your level, or 3) has been at your level.

So, you're at home :smile:.
 
Astronomy is a vast field of knowledge, it will lead you to astrophysics [an even vaster field of knowledge], and then to cosmology [which looks very much like black magic]. I like NASA's Imagine the Universe site: http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/ask_astro/ask_an_astronomer.html. as an introduction. It will keep you amused for quite awhile and assist in exploring topics you find interesting. Seriously, no one can master all of this information, its too vast.
 
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Try this: start with a very general topic. Say, mathematics, or astronomy, or physics... then go to the Wikipedia page on that topic. Read until you see something in blue (a link) that looks interesting, and click. Read until you see something in blue that looks interesting, and click. And so forth. If you get to an article that is either uninteresting or over your head, then go back one step.
 

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