High Background Radiation Rates - Is This Normal?

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The discussion revolves around the background radiation readings observed using a Ludlum Model 3 Survey Meter, specifically addressing whether the reported counts per minute (cpm) are normal and the implications of various probe types and calibration issues. Participants explore the technical aspects of radiation detection, including the characteristics of different probes and potential external factors affecting readings.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant initially reported background readings of 2-3K counts/minute, later questioning if this was high after realizing they were on the X0.1 scale.
  • Another participant inquired about the type of probe being used, identifying it as a NaI(Tl) scintillator, which is primarily sensitive to low-energy gamma/X-rays.
  • Concerns were raised about the high counts, with suggestions that the probe's sensitivity to high-energy gamma radiation could affect readings.
  • Participants discussed the importance of calibration, noting that the instrument lacked calibration stickers and that proper calibration procedures were unclear.
  • One participant suggested checking the background radiation outside away from buildings to verify meter functionality.
  • There were mentions of potential external factors, such as solar flares, possibly influencing background radiation levels.
  • Technical details regarding the pulse-height discriminator settings and the need for proper calibration using specific isotopes like Am-241 were discussed.
  • Some participants noted that the readings could vary significantly based on the energy of the radiation detected.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants expressed varying opinions on the normalcy of the observed background radiation levels, with some suggesting the readings were high while others proposed that they might be typical under certain conditions. There is no consensus on the cause of the initial high readings or the necessity of calibration, indicating ongoing uncertainty and debate.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of calibration information for the instrument, potential dependence on the specific probe characteristics, and unresolved questions regarding the influence of external radiation sources.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to individuals involved in radiation detection, environmental monitoring, or those seeking to understand the implications of background radiation readings in various contexts.

  • #31
gleem said:
Right so why the 2 - 3 Kcpm counts in the OP?

Don gave an answer to that in his first post, he has it on the wrong setting ...

Never mind, I was on the X0.1 scale. But that's still high, isn't it?
Ohhh and auroral activity isn't going to make a detector read anything extra... The aurora is produced by
mostly electrons and some protons being trapped in the Earth's magnetic field

And fortunately, because of our atmosphere's protection, reading a burst of x-rays, when they arrive, several days
before the auroral activity begins is unlikely to occur at ground level either.
 
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davenn said:
Don gave an answer to that in his first post, he has it on the wrong setting ...
Looks like the half-life of my memory is about 1 post. :sorry:

davenn said:
Ohhh and auroral activity isn't going to make a detector read anything extra... The aurora is produced by
mostly electrons and some protons being trapped in the Earth's magnetic field
Admittedly that was a bit of a reach but x-rays and gamma rays are a small component of the radiation, and gammas from neutron activation have been observed and Don's NaI detector is quite sensitive to low-energy x-rays.
 
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