Hinged Valve Submerged in Water

Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion focuses on determining the depth (d) of water required for a hinged valve to open, specifically a 225 x 225 mm square plate pivoted at a height of 90 mm above its lower edge. The solution involves calculating the forces acting on the valve using fluid mechanics principles, particularly the equations for pressure and torque. The calculated depth of 382.5 mm contrasts with the book's answer of 300 mm, prompting further exploration of torque equations and moments about the hinge point A.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of fluid mechanics principles, specifically pressure and torque.
  • Familiarity with calculus, particularly integration techniques.
  • Knowledge of the relationship between force, area, and pressure (F = PA).
  • Ability to apply the concept of moments in static equilibrium.
NEXT STEPS
  • Study the derivation of torque equations in fluid mechanics.
  • Learn about the principles of hydrostatic pressure and its applications.
  • Explore advanced integration techniques for solving fluid dynamics problems.
  • Investigate the conditions for static equilibrium in mechanical systems.
USEFUL FOR

Students and professionals in mechanical engineering, particularly those focusing on fluid dynamics and valve mechanics, will benefit from this discussion.

Captain1024
Messages
44
Reaction score
2

Homework Statement



An automatic valve consists of a 225 X 225 mm square plate that is pivoted about a horizontal axis through A located at a distance h = 90 mm above the lower edge. Determine the depth (d) of the water for which the valve will open." Given: h = 90 mm, y = 225 mm
*Answer given in the back of the book = 300 mm*

Diagram: http://imgur.com/BuFIEUU

Homework Equations



F = Pressure(P) * Area(A)

F = ∫∫A P * dA

Pressure P = ρgh, where
g = 9.81 m/s^2
h = depth in meters
ρ = density = 10^3 kg/m^3


The Attempt at a Solution



My theory: If the force on the valve above the hinge equals the force on the valve below the hinge, the valve will begin to open.

Force on Top: FTOP = \int ^{225}_{0}\int ^{225}_{90} \rho g(d-y) dydx

Simplified: FTOP = 255\int ^{225}_{90} \rho g(d-y) dy

Force on bottom: FBOT = \int ^{225}_{0}\int ^{90}_{0} \rho g(d-y) dydx

Simplified: FBOT = 255\int ^{90}_{0} \rho g(d-y) dy

\Rightarrow FTOP = FBOT

Equate: 255\int ^{225}_{90} \rho g(d-y) dy = 255\int ^{90}_{0} \rho g(d-y) dy

Simplify: \int ^{225}_{90} (d-y) dy = \int ^{90}_{0} (d-y) dy

Integrate: (dy - \frac{y^2}{2}|\stackrel{225}{90}) = (dy - \frac{y^2}{2}|\stackrel{90}{0})

\Rightarrow 135d - 21262.5 = 90d - 4050

\Rightarrow 45d = 17212.5

\Rightarrow d = 382.5 mm

Answer given in book = 300 mm

4. Notes

I know there are many ways to solve this problem. I would like to see a solution involving calculus because I believe that is where all other solution methods are derived from. Thanks in advance.

Captain1024
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Hello Captain 1024. Welcome to PF!

Captain1024 said:
My theory: If the force on the valve above the hinge equals the force on the valve below the hinge, the valve will begin to open.

You want the hinge to rotate about the axis at A. The rotational analog of force is torque.
 
Thank you for your greetings. What equation should I use to find the torque about hinge A?
 
Captain1024 said:
Thank you for your greetings. What equation should I use to find the torque about hinge A?
If ph is the pressure at the hinge, and z is the distance above the hinge, what is the pressure at z? What is the differential force dF acting on the region of the plate between z and z + dz. What is the moment of this differential force about the hinge? What is the moment about the hinge of all the differential forces for the portion of the plate above the hinge? What is the moment about the hinge of all the differential forces for the portion of the plate below the hinge?

Chet
 
Ph = ρ*g*(d-h)

Pz = (d - h - z)(ρg)

Not sure on this part. F = \int \rho gd*dz

As for moments, we have been using the sum of the moments about a point are zero to find unknowns. Are you asking me to do the same?
 
Think about filling the container with the fluid. When the depth of the fluid is below point A, you can see that the pressure of the fluid on the plate would create a counterclockwise moment on the plate about point A. The ledge B prevents the plate from opening by exerting a clockwise moment on the plate. As the fluid level rises above point A, the fluid pressure due to fluid above point A will exert a clockwise moment.

The valve will be on the verge of opening when the net torque on the plate (about point A) due to the fluid pressure is zero. So, you need to find the depth d for this situation.

For a strip of the valve of thickness dz at depth z, can you find an expression of the moment arm (relative to A) of the fluid force dF on the strip in terms of d, h, and z?
 

Attachments

  • Fluid Valve.png
    Fluid Valve.png
    18.6 KB · Views: 723
Last edited:
Captain1024 said:
Ph = ρ*g*(d-h)

Pz = (d - h - z)(ρg)

Not sure on this part. F = \int \rho gd*dz
No. The differential force is dF = P(z) dz. The differential moment is dM = P(z) zdz. Just integrate the moment over the part of the plate above the hinge. Then integrate the moment over the part of the plate below the hinge.

Chet
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 29 ·
Replies
29
Views
4K
  • · Replies 21 ·
Replies
21
Views
4K
Replies
7
Views
2K
  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
9K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
3K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
3K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
5K
Replies
11
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
20K