Finding the force of water in a pool on a vertical wall

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves calculating the force exerted by water on the walls and bottom of a swimming pool with specific dimensions. The context is fluid mechanics, focusing on pressure and force relationships in a static fluid.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to integrate pressure over height to find the force on the vertical side of the pool. Some participants question the dimensions used for width and height, suggesting that the depth should be clarified. Others raise concerns about accounting for atmospheric pressure in the calculations.

Discussion Status

The discussion has evolved with participants providing guidance on dimension selection and addressing the atmospheric pressure consideration. There is acknowledgment of an error in the original approach, leading to a successful resolution for the original poster.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem specifies not to account for atmospheric pressure, which is a point of contention in the discussion. There is also a humorous reference to the impracticality of a pool with excessive depth.

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Homework Statement


A swimming pool has the dimensions 24 m multiplied by 9.0 m multiplied by 2.5 m.

(a) When it is filled with water, what is the force (resulting from the water alone) on the bottom, on the short sides, and on the long sides?


Homework Equations



F = P*A

P = rho * g * h

The Attempt at a Solution



Ok, I have no idea what I am doing wrong, but I am trying to find the force of water on the short vertical side of the pool.

So, since pressure varies by height, I have to intergrate the pressure by height (h).

So P = \int\rho g dh

and A = h*w where w = width of the pool

So F = \int\rho g dh h*w

then you end up with \rho*w*g*(h^2)/2 from 0 to 9

and get 992250 Pa

I'm pretty sure what I did was correct, but I am not getting the right answer.

Can anyone help?
 
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Seems good to me. Are you sure you didn't get your dimensions mixed up? That is, are you sure you used the right values for w and h?
 
Well, for one thing, 2.5 m is the only sensible choice for the depth of the pool! If either of the other two is the depth, then that is one strange pool.
 
Why would 2.5 be the sensible height? i thought it would be the width of the pool.
 
Who has swum in a pool of 30' depth?

Edit: one other thing bothers me about the solution, the pressure at 0' depth is not 0 pressure but atmospheric pressure which I think should be accounted for if we are interested in the total pressure exerted on any of the surfaces, or am I confused?
 
denverdoc said:
Who has swum in a pool of 30' depth?

Edit: one other thing bothers me about the solution, the pressure at 0' depth is not 0 pressure but atmospheric pressure which I think should be accounted for if we are interested in the total pressure exerted on any of the surfaces, or am I confused?

Oh, I guess that is rather large...

But yes, you are right, atmospheric pressure is the pressure at the surface, but the problem states to not take that into account.
 
very well, I would try using 2.5 as the depth and 9 as the width as Cepheid suggests. See if you get the right answer
 
I did and came out with the right answer. Thanks a lot!
 
Thank Cepheid, he caught the error, but you're welcome.
 

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