Hobbit Movie - Thoughts & Trailer Analysis

[Greg Bernhardt]

Thoughts on the new Hobbit movie? I've seen a couple trailers. It's hard to get a real sense of what it will be. I suppose that is good. I can't wait for Smaug! I bet he's in the second of the movies though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0k3kHtyoqc

 

[trueo]

I have never been a fan of Harry Potter or Lord of the Ring, UK's fantasies never attract me more than those of China. I like US's horrors and suspense.

Many movies from Asia I found are very good, but as they are from...Asia, so they have never been able to to stand in line with the "Western" though these Western ones are still pretty bad in filming techniques.

 

[r4z0r84]

I'm from australia, i would disagree from my experiences although i have to agree on par with some asian countries as for example majority if not all australian films are horrible compared to anything produced in north america, I am looking forward to The Hobbit mainly due to the trailer actually sucking me into the film.

The music that has been used is perfect in my oppinion, i am looking forward to the sound/music rather than the story/graphics/special effects.

In terms of horrors and suspense i have seen paranormal activity 3 and 4, i didnt jump once maybe its just me but i found everything predictable and extremely slow paced.

But each to their own, i can say its still better than anything australia has produced!

The Hobbit is the only book i have ever read, for a school english exam. I hope i don't get frustrated by the book during the movie from suttle differences.

 

[micromass]

I can't wait to see the movie! I can't imagine it will be better than lord of the rings though, but I'm sure it will be really awesome.

 

[Evo]

I though these Western ones are still pretty bad in filming techniques.

Bad? LOTR won 3 academy awards for special effects. What on Earth are you referring to?

 

[Greg Bernhardt]

LOTR won 3 academy awards for special effects.

I had a blast watching the making of the films on the extended dvds. So interesting how they did everything!

 

[Evo]

I had a blast watching the making of the films on the extended dvds. So interesting how they did everything!

It's really incredible what these people can do.

I am looking forward to the Hobbit.

 

[arildno]

I have a deep-rooted penchant for hairy feet, and I am already in slavering mode regarding this movie.
Is there something wrong with me?

 

[arildno]

I had a blast watching the making of the films on the extended dvds. So interesting how they did everything!

I found the extended versions of FoTR and TT exceptionally good, so I was somewhat disappointed about RoTK EE.
It felt, frankly, choppy, with inserted details that cut up the well-told narrative in the cinema version, wheres the EEs of the two first films seemed to tie up loose threads and making in general, the experience more well-rounded and orderly than the cinematic versions.

I think, by the way, that Smaug will already appear in the first film, in a dramatic retelling of the Dwarves' flight from erebor.

 

[SHISHKABOB]

I am really worried about this movie. I have heard they are adding characters like some elf chick and for some reason Legolas is going to appear...?

I am also apprehensive about how... "unique" each of the dwarves are. I guess I enjoyed the idea that they were pretty simple dudes. Just a cute little colored hat like a gnome wears. I can't imagine them as a bunch of gnarly dudes, seeing as how they were so easily taken care of by a bunch of little spiders.

I am not necessarily predicting that I will not like the movie... just that I am worried about it. I will definitely be going to see it, though.

 

[arildno]

Legolas lived at that time, being roughly a 1000 years old in loTR.
Since he is Thranduil's son, it is not unreasonable that he appears at kingly feasts or battles the elves participate in. That Bilbo wouldn't know his name is perfectly understandable.

As for dwarves vs. spiders, that depends on how big they are?
From what I remember, the height of the spiders in The Hobbit is about that of Bilbo, and then just slightly less than the height of a dwarf.
They are not Shelobs, but damn big nonetheless..

 

[Greg Bernhardt]

I am not necessarily predicting that I will not like the movie... just that I am worried about it. I will definitely be going to see it, though.

I think we can trust Jackson at the helm. He didn't let us down with LotR. I'm sure the drama and fighting will be embellished, but it's a movie, it's suppose to be entertaining.

 

[SHISHKABOB]

He didn't let us down with LotR.

welllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

they were certainly good movies

but I guess I get a little annoyed by stuff like "elves at helms deep" and "Arwen replacing Glorfindel"

I would rather these movies stick very closely to the book, and most of the time they did, except for those really weird situations. Not saying they "ruined" the movie whatsoever, just that I think that I personally would have enjoyed them more if there weren't things like that.

 

[arildno]

welllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

they were certainly good movies

but I guess I get a little annoyed by stuff like "elves at helms deep" and "Arwen replacing Glorfindel"

I would rather these movies stick very closely to the book, and most of the time they did, except for those really weird situations. Not saying they "ruined" the movie whatsoever, just that I think that I personally would have enjoyed them more if there weren't things like that.

NERD ALERT!

Legolas has an explicit WISH at Helm's Deep in the books that he had a hundred or so Elven archers with him. PJ was merely involved in..wish-fulfilment.

 

[SHISHKABOB]

yes I am definitely massively nerdy about LotR

hopefully it does not ruin the hobbit move for me >.>

 

[arildno]

yes I am definitely massively nerdy about LotR

hopefully it does not ruin the hobbit move for me >.>

I fully agree with you that there are several points in Jackson's adaptation that was less than par.
My greatest disappointment was concerning Denethor, who was totally changed from the books into an idiotic lunatic.
His story in the books is one of classic tragic grandeur in which a basically good man, dedicated to the safety of his people, gradually withers into an embittered shadow of himself, still as dedicated, but becoming more and more harsh, until he suddenly snaps and betrays everything he once stood for.
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But, this is still a minor issue, I really believe Jackson can make yet another beatiful trilogy from Middle Earth!

 

[Greg Bernhardt]

His story in the books is one of classic tragic grandeur in which a basically good man, dedicated to the safety of his people, gradually withers into an embittered shadow of himself, still as dedicated, but becoming more and more harsh, until he suddenly snaps and betrays everything he once stood for.

How do you portray that in a 3 hour movie with a complex story?

 

[arildno]

How do you portray that in a 3 hour movie with a complex story?

First off:
By showing the evacuation of the civilian population that Denethor ordered, and show him as a quick, perceptive man, if bitter, lashing out at those soldiers who seem to quail before the battles.
Secondly, and utterly critical:
Show his private, ultimately hazardous mental battles with Sauron by way of denethor using the Palantir, forcing information out of it, on the expense of becoming exhausted by Sauron's malevolent presence. In particular, Sauron might gloat and play on the guilt-ridden soul of Denethor of not just having sent his son Boromir to his death, but also Faramir. Finally, Denethor snaps under the mental assault.

I agree that this would have taken clever, difficult script writing, but I think PJ at this point made a cop-out.

 

[Borg]

It has been a very long time since I read the Hobbit. But, I'm glad to see that Peter Jackson is directing and that it was fimed in New Zealand like the others. My wife and I went there in 2004 and got to tour the actual site of Hobbiton so I'm looking forward to those scenes.

 

[HallsofIvy]

Does anyone remember the 1977 Rankin and Bass animated version? I still have a video tape of it. Cute, nicely done although all of the characters looked like they were from Sendak's "Where the Wild Thing Are". The voices were well done: Smaug easily reconizable as Richard Boon, Gadalf was John Huston, the elvenking was Otto Preminger, Has Conreid was Thorin Oakenshield, and Orson Bean was Bilbo.

The one really grating part was a continuing "voice over" song, "The greatest Adventure" which kind of narrated the story, including poem lyrics from the book, sung by Glen Yarbrough!

 

[Borek]

Does anyone remember the 1977 Rankin and Bass animated version?

You mean...

 

[SHISHKABOB]

see all I'm looking at is the little preview picture of that youtube video and I see the dwarves in the forest and bilbo is climbin a tree

all the dwarves they just look dwarfy to me. Cute little clothes and a hat thing and a beard. The pictures I've seen of the dwarves in the Hobbit movie all look kind of ridiculous.

 

[Borek]

The previous video made me think about

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[SHISHKABOB]

I just found out that they are going to make this movie into three parts. That makes me MUCH less apprehensive about it, because I am assuming that they are doing it in three parts so that they can really do it justice. I always hate watching movies based on books and seeing parts of it cut out. I mean, I know that they *have* to cut out parts else you'd get ridiculously long movies. But IMO things like the Hobbit and LotR are worth spending a lot of time on, because there's just so much to them.

 

[Curious3141]

Bad? LOTR won 3 academy awards for special effects. What on Earth are you referring to?

Maybe he means "bad" as Michael Jackson meant it. Y' know, BAAAAD. A compliment.

 

[Borg]

Peter Jackson and Air New Zealand teamed up for a flight safety video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBlRbrB_Gnc#!

 

[Spinalcold]

I wonder how he'll pull off the worg-goblin conversation. In LoTR he portrayed Worgs as mindless, but they speak and its a very important part in The Hobbit. Gandalf understands what they say when they are trapped in the trees and starts throwing fire acorns at them.

 

[arildno]

I wonder how he'll pull off the worg-goblin conversation. In LoTR he portrayed Worgs as mindless, but they speak and its a very important part in The Hobbit. Gandalf understands what they say when they are trapped in the trees and starts throwing fire acorns at them.

Talking wolves have beards.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

I didn't look to see if this has been mentioned but Denny's Restaurants have introduced a Hobbit Menu

From the menu: "Welcome to Middle-Earth's Diner: Discover many new items inspired by The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey. Whether you're here for First Breakfast, Lunch, Dinner or Second Breakfast, every bite's a treasure. So lift up your fork and let the adventure begin. " ...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/grubgrade/first-look-the-hobbit-men_b_2009741.html

As a result there is a huge demand for short order cooks.

 

[nanosiborg]

I didn't look to see if this has been mentioned but Denny's Restaurants have introduced a Hobbit Menu


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/grubgrade/first-look-the-hobbit-men_b_2009741.html

As a result there is a huge demand for short order cooks.

Denny's. Isn't that the restaurant that the Donner family decided not to eat at?