Homeomorphism between a 1-dim vector space and R

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of finding a homeomorphism between a one-dimensional vector space and the real numbers, specifically seeking a solution that is independent of the choice of basis. The scope includes theoretical aspects of topology and vector spaces, as well as the implications of defining norms and topologies in this context.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks a homeomorphism from a one-dimensional vector space to R that is independent of the basis used.
  • Another participant clarifies that homeomorphisms are mappings between topological spaces, suggesting a potential misunderstanding of terms.
  • A participant proposes defining a norm to induce a topology on the vector space, but expresses difficulty in establishing the homeomorphism without reliance on a basis.
  • One participant expresses skepticism about the possibility of finding a basis-free homeomorphism, noting the challenge of defining a norm without a basis.
  • A request for clarification on what "independent of basis" means is made, leading to a definition that suggests consistency across different bases.
  • A suggestion is made to select a specific basis to define an isomorphism, implying that the function's value would depend solely on the chosen point, though it may still rely on the initial basis for computation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants exhibit disagreement regarding the feasibility of finding a homeomorphism that is independent of the basis. Some express skepticism about this possibility, while others suggest practical approaches that involve choosing a basis.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in defining norms and topologies without a basis, as well as the dependency of certain mathematical constructs on the choice of basis.

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im trying to get a homeomorphism between a 1-dim vector space and R, but independent of the basis.
Any ideas?
 
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Do you mean homomorphism? Homeomorphisms are maps between topological spaces.
 


no i meant homeomorphism,
im trying to get a chart (manifolds- C^(/infinity) structure) from V to R
we can though define the norm right and induce a topology on our vector space,
but i still can't see the homeomorphism,
ofcourse the hard thing is that i want it to be independent of the basis, or else, it would've been trivial.
 


I would be pretty surprised if you could find one that's basis free.

You can't even define the norm without a basis unless you have a basis free definition for a linear isomorphism between V and R.
 


Can you give a precise statement of what you mean by "independent of basis"?
 


yeah sure, i think they mean for whatever choice of bases, we can get the same result.
 


Then pick a particular basis, and use that to define an isomorphism of vector spaces.

Once you have done that, you have defined a function. The value of the function depends only on the point chosen and nothing else.

(Of course, the obvious method for computing values of this function would probably make use of the basis you originally chose)
 

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