Homodyne Detection and measuring quadratures

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The discussion centers around the concept of measuring quadratures in relation to homodyne detection, exploring its implications in various signal types, including radio and optical signals. Participants seek to clarify the definitions and significance of amplitude and phase in this context.

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  • Some participants explain that measuring quadratures involves assessing the cos phi and sin phi components of a signal, which correspond to the real and imaginary parts in complex notation.
  • It is noted that quadratures (I and Q) relate to the x and y axes when representing signals with phasors, allowing for the measurement of both amplitude and phase.
  • One participant mentions that traditional homodyne detection only provides intensity, while measuring quadratures enables the capture of both amplitude and phase information.
  • There is a discussion about the equipment needed for measuring quadratures, such as mixers and phase shifters in the microwave regime, or lock-in amplifiers at lower frequencies.
  • A participant questions the meaning of amplitude and phase, seeking clarification on whether amplitude refers to signal strength and how phase relates to the angle of fields.
  • Another participant responds that the interpretation of amplitude and phase depends on the type of signal being measured, indicating that the definitions hold for both radio and optical signals.

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Participants express varying interpretations of amplitude and phase, indicating that there is no consensus on the definitions or implications across different signal types. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific meanings and applications of these concepts.

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Participants do not fully clarify the assumptions underlying their definitions of amplitude and phase, nor do they resolve the differences in interpretation based on signal type.

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Hello

Can anyone explain to me what measuring quadratures are in relation to homodyne detection?

Thanks
 
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It simply means measuring the cos phi and sin phi (or equivalenty the real and imaginary parts if you prefer complex notation) terms of the signal.

From which it follows that if you represent the signal using phasors, the quadratures (I and Q) correspond to the x and y axis, respectivly,

One obvious reason for measuring the quadratures is that you get BOTH the amplitude and the phase iof the signal, whereas "normal" homodyne detection will only give you the intensity.
In order to measure both quadratures in the MW regime you need a couple of mixers and a 90 degree phase shifter (in reality this will be a hybrid) or simply and IQ-demodulator.
If you are working at lower frequecies an ordinary lock-in amplifier will work (the "X" and "Y" outputs) .
 
f95toli said:
It simply means measuring the cos phi and sin phi (or equivalenty the real and imaginary parts if you prefer complex notation) terms of the signal.

From which it follows that if you represent the signal using phasors, the quadratures (I and Q) correspond to the x and y axis, respectivly,

One obvious reason for measuring the quadratures is that you get BOTH the amplitude and the phase iof the signal, whereas "normal" homodyne detection will only give you the intensity.
In order to measure both quadratures in the MW regime you need a couple of mixers and a 90 degree phase shifter (in reality this will be a hybrid) or simply and IQ-demodulator.
If you are working at lower frequecies an ordinary lock-in amplifier will work (the "X" and "Y" outputs) .

By amplitude, do you mean the strength of the signal? What does the phase mean. Has that got something to do with the angle of the fields?
 
What it means depends on what you are measuring. If you are measuring a radio-signal the amplitude and phase will just be the usual amplitude and phase of an electrical signal.
The same is (more or less) true for e.g. optical signals.
 

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