Homogeneous Fredholm equation of the second kind

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The discussion revolves around solving a homogeneous Fredholm equation of the second kind, specifically in the context of a PhD thesis. The equation involves an integral operator with a kernel that is not of a standard form, raising questions about potential solution methods and the implications of certain properties of the kernel.

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  • One participant presents a specific form of a homogeneous Fredholm equation and notes the lack of available solutions in literature for non-standard kernels.
  • Another participant suggests that the compactness of the integral operator is crucial for applying Fredholm theory, indicating that if the operator norm is less than one, the only solution could be trivial.
  • There is a proposal to transform the equation into a different form involving a new function h(t), but one participant argues that this does not change the nature of the equation.
  • A participant expresses that the trivial solution (phi=0) is unacceptable in their context, indicating a need for non-trivial solutions.
  • One participant inquires about the implications of the properties of phi(x), specifically its continuity and symmetry, on finding a solution.
  • Another participant admits uncertainty regarding the nature of phi(x).

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Participants express differing views on the implications of the operator norm and the transformation of the equation. There is no consensus on the best approach to solve the equation, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the existence of non-trivial solutions.

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Participants note limitations in existing literature, particularly regarding the treatment of non-standard kernels. The discussion also highlights the importance of specific properties of the function phi(x) and the nature of the integral operator.

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Researchers and students working on integral equations, particularly those dealing with Fredholm equations and non-standard kernels, may find this discussion relevant.

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Hi,
during the analysis of a problem in my phd thesis
I have resulted in the following equation.

\varphi(x)= \int_a^b K(x,t)\varphi(t)dt

which is clearly a homogeneous Fredholm equation of the second kind

The problem is that I can't find in any text any way of solving it.
Solutions are provided only for special cases like when the kernel K
is symmetric

K(x,t)=K(x,t)
or when it is separable which are both not my case.

The particular form of the equation I am dealing with is
\varphi(x)= \int_a^b \Lambda(x,t)g(x)\varphi(t)dt

where \Lambda(x,t) is symmetric and g(x) a known function involving logarithm.

Any ideas of how to deal with this kind of form?
Thank you in advance
 
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Your question very much depends on whether the integral operator defined by:

K\varphi = \int_a^b K(x,t) \varphi(t)\, \mathrm{d} t

is compact. In this case, you can apply Fredholm theory (for instance, your equation can only have finitely many solutions). Alternatively, if you can show \|K\|<1 then you can construct a convergent (in the operator norm) Neumann series to show the only solution is \varphi=0.
 
Anthony said:
Your question very much depends on whether the integral operator defined by:

K\varphi = \int_a^b K(x,t) \varphi(t)\, \mathrm{d} t

is compact. In this case, you can apply Fredholm theory (for instance, your equation can only have finitely many solutions). Alternatively, if you can show \|K\|<1 then you can construct a convergent (in the operator norm) Neumann series to show the only solution is \varphi=0.

Thank you for the reply.
So, you say that if |K|<1 then \varphi vanishes?

One more question. Since my kernel is not of a specific form,
is it more convenient to take h(t)=g(x)*\varphi(t)
and translate the initial equation to the form

\varphi(x)= \int_a^b K(x,t)h(t)dt

which is a Fredholm equation of the second kind?

Is this form easier to be solved or it will make things worse?

PS: Do you have any good book to suggest?
Every book I have searched treats only the trivial cases of kernels (separable etc.)

EDIT: The solution phi=0 has no physical meaning in my case, so it should be considered as unacceptable.
 
yiorgos said:
Thank you for the reply.
So, you say that if |K|<1 then \varphi vanishes?
Yes, if the operator norm is less than one. I.e. if K:X\rightarrow Y and X is a normed space, then:

\| K\| = \sup_{\|\varphi\|=1} \| A\varphi \| \

So if \|K\| &lt;1, then the following Neumann series converges (in the operator norm):

S = \sum_{n=0}^\infty K^n

and you can check S (I-K) = (I-K)S = I, i.e. S = (I-K)^{-1}.

yiorgos said:
One more question. Since my kernel is not of a specific form,
is it more convenient to take h(t)=g(x)*\varphi(t)
and translate the initial equation to the form

\varphi(x)= \int_a^b K(x,t)h(t)dt

which is a Fredholm equation of the second kind?
Certainly not - your equation is still of the 1st kind.

yiorgos said:
PS: Do you have any good book to suggest?
Every book I have searched treats only the trivial cases of kernels (separable etc.)
Kress has a good book which is fairly accessible.
 
I forgot to mention that I know for \phi(x)
that it is defined only in [a,b] and I'm interesting particularly for a domain of the form [-a,a].
Additionally, I expect \phi(x) to be continuous and symmetric about zero.
Would these properties help by any means?
 
I have no idea what \phi(x) is.
 

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