Homomorphism of a cyclic subgroup is a cyclic subgroup ?

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The discussion revolves around the properties of homomorphisms in group theory, specifically focusing on the relationship between a cyclic subgroup generated by an element in group G and its image under a homomorphism into group H.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the implications of the homomorphism on the structure of cyclic subgroups, questioning how the operation on elements is preserved through the mapping. They discuss the notation and meaning of expressions like (a(x))^r and the operations defined in groups G and H.

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There is an active exploration of the definitions and properties of homomorphisms, with participants seeking clarification on the operations involved. Some guidance has been provided regarding the interpretation of the notation, but uncertainty remains about the specifics of the operations in each group.

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Participants are navigating the definitions of operations in the context of two different groups, G and H, and how these relate to the homomorphic image of a cyclic subgroup.

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Let [itex]\alpha:G \rightarrow H[/itex] be a homomorphism and let x[itex]\in[/itex]G

Prove [itex]\alpha(<x>) =<\alpha(x)>[/itex]

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α(<x>) = α({x^{r}: r ∈ Z}) = {α(x^{r}) : r ∈ Z} = {α(x)^{r}: r ∈ Z} = <α(x)>.


I do not understand how can we take out the 'r' out of a(x^{r}) to get (a(x))^{r} ? What would a(x)^2 say mean ? a(x) (some binary operation defined in H) a(x) or would it be (a°a)(x) i.e. a(a(x)) ?
 
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Hi Leb! :smile:

(try using the X2 button just above the Reply box :wink:)
Leb said:
I do not understand how can we take out the 'r' out of a(x^{r}) to get (a(x))^{r} ? What would a(x)^2 say mean ? a(x) (some binary operation defined in H) a(x) or would it be (a°a)(x) i.e. a(a(x)) ?

No, that would be ar(x).

This is (a(x))r, the product of r elements of group H. :wink:
 
Thank you for your reply tiny-tim !
However, I am still not sure what will happen...

(a(x))r = a(x) * a(x) *...*a(x) r-times ? But what is * then ? Is it defined in H or in G ?
 
Leb said:
I do not understand how can we take out the 'r' out of a(x^{r}) to get (a(x))^{r} ?
Well, you have that [itex]a[/itex] is homomorphism, so [itex]a\bigl(x^2\bigr)=a(x\star x)=a(x)*a(x)=\bigl(a(x)\bigr)^2[/itex], same for [itex]a(x^{r})[/itex], where [itex]\star[/itex] is binary operation in [itex]G[/itex] and [itex]*[/itex] in [itex]H[/itex].
 
Leb said:
… I am still not sure what will happen...

(a(x))r = a(x) * a(x) *...*a(x) r-times ? But what is * then ? Is it defined in H or in G ?

in H

x is in G, a(x) is in H …

so x can only undergo G's operations,

and a(x) can only undergo H's operations :wink:
 
Ah, OK, now it is clear. Thanks guys !
 

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