Hooke's Law/Poisson's Ratio and a bar

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The discussion revolves around a homework problem involving Hooke's Law and Poisson's Ratio, specifically focusing on a round aluminum alloy bar subjected to axial forces. Participants explore the relationship between axial stress, strain, and the effects of Poisson's Ratio on the bar's dimensions.

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  • Homework-related
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  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • The participant presents a problem involving a round bar of aluminum alloy 7075-T6, detailing the dimensions and material properties needed to calculate the load P based on the change in diameter.
  • There is confusion regarding the application of Poisson's Ratio in the calculations, with the participant suspecting that it may not have been utilized correctly.
  • Another participant points out that the decrease in diameter corresponds to lateral strain (epsilon dash), suggesting that this information can be used to find axial strain (epsilon).
  • The original poster later acknowledges a misunderstanding related to the power of ten in their calculations, indicating a resolution of their initial confusion but not providing a definitive answer to the problem.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct application of Poisson's Ratio in the problem. There is acknowledgment of confusion and miscalculations, but no agreement on the final solution or the necessity of Poisson's Ratio in this specific context.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights potential misunderstandings regarding the use of material properties and the relationships between different types of strain. There is also mention of a possible misalignment of the problem's difficulty level with the participants' current understanding.

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Homework Statement


A round bar of 10 mm diameter is made of
aluminum alloy 7075-T6 (see figure). When the bar is
stretched by axial forces P, its diameter decreases by
0.016 mm.
Find the magnitude of the load P. (Obtain the material
properties from Appendix H.)

From Appendix H:
Modulus of Elasticity (E) = 72 Gpa (Kn/mm^2)
Poisson's Ratio (v) = .33

Homework Equations


ε = axial strain
ε' = lateral strain
σ = axial stress
L = Length of bar
δ = change in length
A = Area

σ = E*ε
ε = δ/L
σ = P/A
v = ε' / ε

The Attempt at a Solution


A = pi*(10 mm )^2 = 314.159 mm^2
ε = (.016mm) ----------------that's right isn't it?
P = σ*A = ε*E*A = (.016mm)*(314.159 mm^2) * (72 Kn/mm^2)
= 361.911 Kn

However, the book says the answer is 27.4 Kn

I'm lost and sad ;-; Where am I going horribly horribly wrong? I figure it's the fact I'm not using the Poisson's ratio (as this section of homework was titled Hooke's Law and Poisson's ratio after a chapter in my book), however it didn't seem to come into play. This could stem from a mis-reading of one of my equations... however I've looked at them multiple times, so either my book is just confusing me or something else is wrong. Thank you for your help *bows*
 
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Is this a more 'upper level' problem that should've been in the other section? I should get a chance to ask my teacher about it later today, though he won't be able to give me much time on the subject the way the schedules work out.
 
"its diameter decreases by
0.016 mm." is epsilon dash.
Now you can work out epsilon.
 
pongo38 said:
"its diameter decreases by
0.016 mm." is epsilon dash.
Now you can work out epsilon.

Yes, thanks. I'm sorry I never responded here but I did an overhaul reading of the material and I got it right. I for some reason continued to have a small power of ten problem, but otherwise the numbers matched up with what was expected.

It is for the very reason you described.
 

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