Horizontal coefficient of restitution

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The original poster is tasked with determining both the vertical and horizontal coefficients of restitution (CoR) for a tennis ball. They have successfully calculated the vertical CoR and are seeking guidance on how to approach the horizontal CoR, which is not covered in their textbook or lab manual.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the concept of the horizontal coefficient of restitution, with some questioning its existence and others suggesting it may be derived similarly to the vertical CoR. The original poster is exploring the relationship between the two coefficients and how to express it mathematically.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with various interpretations being explored regarding the horizontal coefficient of restitution. Some participants express uncertainty about its definition, while others reference external sources that suggest a method for calculating it. No consensus has been reached yet.

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There is mention of potential confusion stemming from the terminology used in the lab manual, which may not be authoritative. The original poster is also grappling with how to formulate a relationship between the vertical and horizontal coefficients based on their understanding of the physics involved.

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Homework Statement


I'm supposed to determine the [vertical] coefficient of restitution of a tennis ball, and the horrizontal coefficient of restitution, and if possible produce an equation or ratio connecting the two.

Vertical CoR: 0.760
Constant x-component velocity: 0.853 m/s

Homework Equations


sqrt (h2/h1) = |v2/v1|


The Attempt at a Solution


I've already calculated the [vertical] coefficient of restitution, and googled to find out that my answer is consistent with that of standard tennis ball.
At this point I just don't know how to calculate the horrizontal CoR. My textbook and lab manual don't mention it, and I can't figure out what relationship they would have.
Can anyone help me out here?
 
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From what I am told, the coefficient of restitution for when objects collide in two planes, is found by taking the ratio of the vertical component of the velocities. So I don't think there is such thing as a horizontal coefficient of restitution.
 
rock.freak667 said:
From what I am told, the coefficient of restitution for when objects collide in two planes, is found by taking the ratio of the vertical component of the velocities. So I don't think there is such thing as a horizontal coefficient of restitution.

Maybe that's true, my lab manual where the questions are stated is definitely not written by people with doctorates in physics. But that's merely terminology. It wouldn't change my question.

If there is no such thing as "horizontal coefficient of restitution" then what would the corresponding horizontal ratio be?

Thinking about it more I assume it would be based off the regular coefficient of restitution, since horizontal velocity is constant, therefore the distance traveled per bounce is a function of time, and the time of each bounce is dependent on the max height reached, which is in turn dependent on the CoR. But I don't know how to state that in an equation, or if I'm even on the right track.
 
hi rock.freak667! :smile:

yeah, I've never heard of it before either …

but I just googled it, and apparently it does exist (I couldn't be bothered to read about it though :rolleyes:)
 
tiny-tim said:
hi rock.freak667! :smile:

yeah, I've never heard of it before either …

but I just googled it, and apparently it does exist (I couldn't be bothered to read about it though :rolleyes:)

Well then, if it exists can anyone enlighten me as to how to obtain it?
 
Psych Berry said:
Well then, if it exists can anyone enlighten me as to how to obtain it?

Well according to http://www2.physics.umd.edu/~mfuhrer/course/spr02/AJP/AJP00482.pdf" , it seems that you obtain the horizontal coefficient of restitution the same way you get the vertical one. You just use the horizontal components instead of the vertical ones it seems.
 
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