I How a rigid body causes a reaction force?

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The discussion centers on the relationship between rigid bodies and reaction forces, particularly in the context of Newton's third law. It is argued that while rigid bodies theoretically do not deform, the action-reaction principle can be understood through molecular interactions and the conservation of momentum. Participants highlight that Newton's third law is fundamental and independent of specific mechanisms, yet it can be illustrated through scenarios like pushing objects in zero gravity. The conversation also touches on Noether's theorem, suggesting that conservation laws are linked to symmetries in physics, and clarifies that Newton's third law implies conservation of momentum, rather than the reverse. Overall, the dialogue emphasizes the complexities of understanding forces and motion in both classical and modern physics contexts.
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I'm diagreeing with the idea, not to answer a question according to the known facts. Of course, when learning about classical mechanics in the very first semesters you cannot explain relativity and quantum mechanics in all detail, but you can tell the students already then, in a qualitative way, as I tried in my answers above, that you need more advanced physics to answer the question. After all, we teach classical mechanics not so much for its own sake but as the preparation for the more advanced and up-to-date topics of modern physics.

For me the main justification to teach the fascinating subject of rigid bodies and spinning tops is to introduce the rotation group as a Lie group and use Lie-algebra arguments to derive the equations of motion using Hamilton's principle (at my university it's usualy taught in the 2nd semester in the 2nd theory-course lecture, where analiytical mechanics is treated). It's a great opportunity to introduce these quite advanced topics at the example of a non-trivial but fascinating phenomenon.
 
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vanhees71 said:
(at my university it's usualy taught in the 2nd semester in the 2nd theory-course lecture,
I have to agree that the Thread Header is I so it is probably appropriate. However, the question about an infinitely strong rope doesn't fit in with that and I was suggesting that the point couldn't be appropriately answered by just digging deeper.
 

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