How Are Angular Momentum Operators Calculated in Spherical Polar Coordinates?

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of angular momentum operators in spherical polar coordinates, specifically the formulas for \(\hat{L_x}\), \(\hat{L_y}\), \(\hat{L_z}\), and \(\hat{L}^2\). Participants are exploring the transition from Cartesian to spherical coordinates in the context of quantum mechanics.

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  • Participants discuss the use of the del-operator in spherical coordinates and question whether to express \(r\) in Cartesian or spherical terms. There is also a concern about whether substituting the del-operator leads to the correct angular momentum operators.

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Some participants have provided links to external resources that may assist in understanding the topic better. There is an ongoing exploration of different interpretations regarding the use of the gradient operator and its implications for calculating angular momentum in spherical coordinates.

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One participant mentions their notes cover the Cartesian case but struggle with the spherical case, indicating potential gaps in understanding the transition between coordinate systems. There is also a mention of confusion regarding the distinction between angular momentum operators in spherical coordinates versus Cartesian coordinates.

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How does one obtain the formulae for the angular momentum operators in spherical polar coordinates i.e.

[itex]\hat{L_x}=i \hbar (\sin{\phi} \frac{\partial}{\partial{\theta}} + \cot{\theta} \cos{\phi} \frac{\partial}{\partial{\phi}}[/itex]
[itex]\hat{L_y}=i \hbar (-\cos{\phi}{\phi} \frac{\partial}{\partial{\theta}} + \cot{\theta} \sin{\phi} \frac{\partial}{\partial{\phi}}[/itex]
[itex]\hat{L_z}=-i \hbar \frac{\partial}{\partial{\phi}}[/itex]
[itex]\hat{L}^2=\hbar^2 \left[\frac{1}{\sin{\theta}} \frac{\partial}{\partial{\theta}} \left(\sin{\theta} \frac{\partial}{\partial{\theta}} \right) +\frac{1}{\sin^2{\theta}} \frac{\partial^2}{\partial{\phi}} \right][/itex]

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Use the del-operator in spherical coordinates.
 
so [itex]\hat{L}=\hat{r} \times \hat{p}[/itex]

where [itex]\hat{p}=-i \hbar \nabla[/itex]

do i use [itex]\nabla[/itex] as the gradient operator in spherical polars?

also do i write r in terms of x,y,z or in terms of r,theta,phi?
 
have you even tried?
 
yes. my notes run through it for the Cartesian case and subsitute r=(x,y,z) and [itex]\nabla=(\partial_x,\partial_y,\partial_z)[/itex].
regardelss of which of the combinations i of r and del iuse above i can't get the right answer.

surely if i sub in for del in spherical polars I'm actually computing [itex]\hat{L_r},\hat{L_\theta},\hat{L_\phi}[/itex] rather than [itex]\hat{L_x},\hat{L_y},\hat{L_z}[/itex], no?
 

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