How are British degrees viewed by American Universities?

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The discussion revolves around the perception of British undergraduate degrees by American universities, particularly in the context of applying for graduate programs. Participants explore various factors that may influence the evaluation of British applicants compared to their American counterparts, including degree classifications, university prestige, research experience, and additional qualifications.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether a British applicant with a 1st Class Degree is viewed as favorably as an American candidate with a GPA of 4.0.
  • There is discussion about whether a year abroad at an American university would enhance a British applicant's profile.
  • Some participants suggest that a postgraduate master's degree from a prestigious British university may benefit a British candidate, even if it is not a requirement for application.
  • It is noted that the recognition of a British university may depend on its size and prestige, with larger and more prestigious institutions being more likely to be recognized by American universities.
  • Research and internship experience are highlighted as valuable assets in the application process, potentially serving as tiebreakers in competitive admissions.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about the specific recognition of universities like Glasgow, Edinburgh, and St Andrews by top American institutions such as Georgia Tech, MIT, and Harvard.
  • Another participant argues that comparing universities across national borders is not feasible and suggests applying broadly across a range of selectiveness.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the weight of various factors in the application process, such as the importance of research experience versus degree classification. There is no consensus on how specific British universities are viewed by American institutions, indicating ongoing uncertainty and debate.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention that the emphasis on internships may differ between the UK and the US, suggesting a potential cultural difference in application expectations. Additionally, there is a lack of clarity regarding the specific recognition of various British universities in the context of American graduate admissions.

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This is about applying from a British undergraduate to an American graduate.
How is a British degree viewed by an American university?
Is a British applicant with a 1st Class Degree viewed just as favorably as an American candidate with GPA 4.0?
Is there anything that goes in favor of the average British applicant compared to the average American candidate? (or vice versa)
Would a year abroad, during undergrad, in an American university go in favor of a British application?
Would a postgrad masters in a prestigious British uni go in favor of a British candidate, even if not required?

I may add more.

sorry, I have a lot of questions...

Thanks for reading.
 
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icma said:
This is about applying from a British undergraduate to an American graduate.
How is a British degree viewed by an American university?
Is a British applicant with a 1st Class Degree viewed just as favorably as an American candidate with GPA 4.0?
Is there anything that goes in favor of the average British applicant compared to the average American candidate? (or vice versa)
Would a year abroad, during undergrad, in an American university go in favor of a British application?
Would a postgrad masters in a prestigious British uni go in favor of a British candidate, even if not required?

I may add more.

sorry, I have a lot of questions...

Thanks for reading.

What subject is this for?

BiP
 
Bipolarity said:
What subject is this for?

BiP

Physics / Theoretical Physics, don't know any specifics yet,
 
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icma said:
Physics / Theoretical Physics, don't know any specifics yet,

It all depends on whether they know your university. The larger your university is (and the more prestigious it is), the likelier it is to be known. Similarly, the larger the target university is (and the more prestigious it is), the likelier it is to at least recognize your university and put it into context. Usually, British universities are well known by American universities and vice versa, because both are English-speaking countries. I am not familiar with "1st class degree" however. I am aware of UK's secondary school system, and their GCSE and A-levels, but not so much with their undergraduate programs.

Also, I would not go into a MS program just for the sake of increasing chances into US PhD programs because US PhD programs by themselves include the coursework of the MS program (and are thus longer than PhD programs elsewhere). You don't need a MS to apply to US PhD, you only need a BS.

Do you have research experience? Research experience, as well as internship experience, is highly valued in the US. It is often the tiebreaker in many applications.

And a final note, make sure to research the programs you want to enter very thoroughly. A big factor in choosing who to accept is the match between the applicant and the department, and if you could increase your chances by choosing a department you are more suited to (though don't necessarily want to pursue that field), you should still choose that department and then later you can change to something you are deeply passionate about. The key is to first get accepted, then you have a lot of leeway with your options.

For example, say your undergrad major was in EE and you did some research in VLSI and micrcontroller based instrumentation. Then later you decide you want to be a physicist. You can apply to the EE department, get accepted, take courses in Physics, get known to the professors, and later petition the Physics department for transferring there. Most US universities do allow this. This is better than just applying for the PhD in physics for which you at the time of application might not be the best choice... it's a gamble though so it must be done with caution.

BiP
 
Bipolarity said:
It all depends on whether they know your university. The larger your university is (and the more prestigious it is), the likelier it is to be known. Similarly, the larger the target university is (and the more prestigious it is), the likelier it is to at least recognize your university and put it into context. Usually, British universities are well known by American universities and vice versa, because both are English-speaking countries. I am not familiar with "1st class degree" however. I am aware of UK's secondary school system, and their GCSE and A-levels, but not so much with their undergraduate programs.

Also, I would not go into a MS program just for the sake of increasing chances into US PhD programs because US PhD programs by themselves include the coursework of the MS program (and are thus longer than PhD programs elsewhere). You don't need a MS to apply to US PhD, you only need a BS.

Do you have research experience? Research experience, as well as internship experience, is highly valued in the US. It is often the tiebreaker in many applications.

And a final note, make sure to research the programs you want to enter very thoroughly. A big factor in choosing who to accept is the match between the applicant and the department, and if you could increase your chances by choosing a department you are more suited to (though don't necessarily want to pursue that field), you should still choose that department and then later you can change to something you are deeply passionate about. The key is to first get accepted, then you have a lot of leeway with your options.

For example, say your undergrad major was in EE and you did some research in VLSI and micrcontroller based instrumentation. Then later you decide you want to be a physicist. You can apply to the EE department, get accepted, take courses in Physics, get known to the professors, and later petition the Physics department for transferring there. Most US universities do allow this. This is better than just applying for the PhD in physics for which you at the time of application might not be the best choice... it's a gamble though so it must be done with caution.

BiP

That's noted what you've said, especially about the internships (which don't seem emphasized so much here in the u.k.)Thanks,

So d'you have any idea how the likes of Glasgow, Edinburgh, St Andrews Universities are viewed in America by the likes of say, GeorgiaTech, Rochester, Washington, California Berkeley, M.I.T, Harvard?
 
icma said:
That's noted what you've said, especially about the internships (which don't seem emphasized so much here in the u.k.)Thanks,

So d'you have any idea how the likes of Glasgow, Edinburgh, St Andrews Universities are viewed in America by the likes of say, GeorgiaTech, Rochester, Washington, California Berkeley, M.I.T, Harvard?

I don't know, I would just apply. Comparing universities across national borders is not feasible, IMO.

When applying, the key is to spread out your universities in terms of their selectiveness.

BiP
 

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