How are emission spectra of gases affected by being in water?

In summary, Mark has a question about how the optical emission spectrum of a gas, specifically neon, would be affected if it is dissolved in water and excited by a chemical reaction. He is wondering if the emission spectrum would be similar to its gaseous state or if it would be altered due to factors such as water bending and refracting light, Stark splitting, and chemical changes. Claude suggests looking at similar cases of emitters embedded in solid media for insights. Mark considers running experiments with a known inert gas dissolved in an aqueous solution as a possible approach.
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Happy New Year to all you Physics Geniuses out there!

I have a question concerning how the optical emission spectrum of a gas would be affected by being dissolved in water. I know very little about spectroscopy so please forgive me if this seems like an idiotic question.

Let's assume I have a gas like neon, which has a very precise emission spectrum when it's excited in the gaseous state. What happens to its emission spectrum if those neon atoms are now dissolved in water and something excites the neon, for example a strong chemical reaction? Would the spectrum emitted by the excited "aqueous" neon look anything like the spectrum seen in its gaseous state? If not, is there some way to predict what that spectrum might be or does the character of emission get insanely complex once an atom is surrounded by so many other molecules, etc.?

I know neon doesn't dissolve very well in water, but I'm just using that as a hypothetical example.

many thanks for your time,
Mark
 
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One thing to keep in mind is that the water will bend and refract the light. Good ol' Snell's Law.
 
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Tau,

thanks for that reminder. But I am mostly interested in how an emission line of a normally gaseous substance might change after it is dissolved in water. For example, if neon gives an emission line at XYZ nanometers, will that emission line be shifted if the neon is dissolved in an aqueous solution wherein it gets excited by, say, a laser pulse, electric charge or high energy chemical reaction, etc.?

thanks,
Mark
 
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Good question. Some effects worth keeping in mind;

- Stark splitting due to an applied E-field. Especially if the water is not de-ionised.
- Chemical changes, for example, carbon dioxide will form carbonic acid upon being dissolved in water.

There are no doubt other effects.

Might I suggest too, looking up the nearly analogous case of emitters embedded in solid media. For example, how gaseous Cu compare to Cu ions embedded in a crystal matrix. This may also provide some useful insights.

Best of luck,
Claude.
 
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Hi Claude,

Thanks for the suggestions. Based on what I've just read about the Stark Effect, I guess one would expect a lot of shifting around and splitting up of the emission lines, especially if the aqueous solution is full of complex chemicals. From that, I am therefore guessing it is not possible to simply derive how such an emission line would be shifted, even if we were dealing with an inert gas like neon, helium, etc. which does not dissolve very well in water.

much obliged for your help,
Mark
 
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Claude,

oh, but on the other hand, I suppose it would not be totally impossible to perhaps dissolve a known inert gas in an aqueous solution and run some experiments, read the emission spectra, then use those resulting emission lines later on as some kind of indicator. I suppose that approach might still be possible.

thanks again,
Mark
 

1. How does the presence of water affect the emission spectra of gases?

The presence of water can significantly impact the emission spectra of gases. Water molecules can absorb and scatter light, which can alter the wavelengths of light emitted by the gas. This can result in a shift or broadening of the spectral lines in the emission spectrum.

2. Why do gases emit different colors in water compared to in air?

When a gas is in water, the water molecules can interact with the gas molecules and influence the energy levels of the gas. This can result in a different set of energy levels for the gas, leading to a different set of wavelengths of light being emitted. This change in energy levels can cause the gas to emit different colors in water compared to in air.

3. Can the emission spectra of gases in water be used to identify the type of gas present?

Yes, the emission spectra of gases in water can be used to identify the type of gas present. Each gas has a unique set of spectral lines, and when placed in water, the water's influence on the gas's energy levels can produce a distinct emission spectrum. By comparing the spectral lines to known spectra, the gas can be identified.

4. How does the temperature of the water affect the emission spectra of gases?

The temperature of the water can affect the emission spectra of gases in several ways. First, it can alter the energy levels of the gas, resulting in a different set of wavelengths being emitted. Second, it can cause the gas molecules to move faster, leading to broadening of the spectral lines. Third, it can change the solubility of the gas, which can also affect the intensity of the spectral lines.

5. Are there any practical applications for studying the emission spectra of gases in water?

Yes, there are several practical applications for studying the emission spectra of gases in water. For example, it can be used in the analysis of water quality to detect and measure dissolved gases. It can also be used in environmental monitoring to identify the presence of specific gases in water bodies. Additionally, it has applications in fields such as chemistry, oceanography, and atmospheric science.

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