How are magnetic field lines affected by the rotation of the sun?

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The discussion revolves around the effects of the Sun's rotation on magnetic field lines, particularly in the context of the solar wind's velocity and the distance to the heliopause. Participants are exploring how these factors interact and influence the number of turns in the magnetic field lines as they extend from the Sun to the heliopause.

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  • Participants are attempting to relate the solar wind's speed and the Sun's rotational period to the winding of magnetic field lines. Questions arise regarding the role of particle mass and the interpretation of the problem's requirements. Some participants suggest calculating the travel time of solar wind to the heliopause and how this relates to the number of rotations of the Sun.

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There is an ongoing exploration of how the Sun's rotation contributes to the winding of magnetic field lines. Some participants have provided calculations and interpretations, while others express uncertainty about the connections being made. The discussion reflects a mix of interpretations and attempts to clarify the relationship between the solar wind and magnetic field dynamics.

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Participants note the lack of specific information regarding particle mass and type, which complicates the analysis. There is also mention of the solar wind's travel time and its implications for understanding the magnetic field's behavior over time.

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Given the solar wind has velocity ##450## km s##^{−1}##, i.e. it is slow solar wind, and if the heliopause is ##150## AU from the Sun, how many turns are wound into each field line between the Sun and the heliopause? Assume the magnetic field is ##6##nT, and the rotational period of the Sun is ∼27 days.

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Not sure where the orbital period of the sun comes into it. And I assume the ##450## km s##^{−1}## are the velocity of solar wind particles radially, but I'm not 100% on that.

What I thought was if it takes ##\frac{150AU}{450 \times 10^3 ms^{-1}} = 5 \times 10^7s## to get to the heliopause, then in that time since a particle in the magnetic field will move in a helix with frequency ##\frac{eB}{m}##, and with a frequency and a time I could work out how many times a particle would loop the field line.

Problem is I haven't been give a mass and I feel like the number of turns in the field line shouldn't depend on the mass, it should be a property of the field. Even if that's not true and it should depend on particle type, I haven't been given a particle type to go look up the mass of. And this answer doesn't involve the rotational period of the sun. So I'm stuck! Thanks for any help! :)
 
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I think the 450 km/s is the forward speed. The rotation of the sun gives it a sideways component. Not sure how this comes into getting to the answer though, but in order to make it turn around the field lines the particles need to have a sideways component.
 
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I think they are asking for how many times the field line is wrapped around by the Sun's rotation. Start by determining how many day's travel is it for the solar wind to travel from the Sun to the heliopause.
 
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I would really like to see where this is going, so please Kara do as gneill suggests, although I cannot see the connection.
I know that the field lines are wound up in the pasma (worked at an observatory long ago and did some spectroscopy investigations on the sun), but did not know it is due to the sun's rotation. Think they are wound in opposite directions in the two hemispheres?
 
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I would really like to see where this is going, so please Kara do as gneill suggests, although I cannot see the connection.
I know that the field lines are wound up in the pasma (worked at an observatory long ago and did some spectroscopy investigations on the sun), but did not know it is due to the sun's rotation. Think they are wound in opposite directions in the two hemispheres?
The solar wind takes 577 days to reach the heliopause just using speed = distance/time. In that time the sun rotates 21.4 times so from gneill's suggestion there are 21.4 turns in the field. Although I would never have known to interpret the question like that. :)
 
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So what is happening is that the field lines are wound up in the plasma as the sun rotates!
No wonder that the magnetic field of the sun has an 11 year cycle during which time the field gets weaker and weaker as the field lines are wound up more and more!
After that it starts over with a reversed polarity.
 
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