How can a dimension be small ?

  • Thread starter Thread starter gbarnett
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Dimension
Click For Summary
The discussion centers on the concept of "small" dimensions, particularly in the context of extra dimensions that may be curled up. It explains that while our three spatial dimensions appear limitless, they could theoretically be small and wrapped, similar to an ant walking on a garden hose, where movement is constrained despite the length. The Planck length is introduced as a minimum possible length, suggesting that anything smaller could collapse into a mini black hole. The idea is that dimensions can be small in terms of how much space is available before "wrapping around," challenging the perception of infinite dimensions. Ultimately, the conversation highlights the complexity of understanding dimensions beyond our conventional three-dimensional space.
gbarnett
Messages
8
Reaction score
0
how can a dimension be "small" ?

Sorry, I'm not much of a physicist. I have read that extra dimensions may be "small" and curled up. Since height, width, and depth appear to be limitless, I am having a hard time understanding what small means when applied to dimensions. I suspect it has something to do with our 3 spatial dimensions being "flat".
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Imagine that you went forward in a straight line for 100 meters and discovered that you are now in the exact same place you started.

Loosely speaking, that's what "curled-up" means.


Now, imagine you only have to go 1.6*10-35 meters before you return to the place where you started. That's "small".
 
OK, but

small and curled up could be contained in any of our 3 spatial dimensions. In this case the dimension itself is small and curled up, correct?
 
In principle, a universe with 3 spatial dimensions could have them all be small and curled-up, but a brief observation proves that this is not the case for our universe. :smile:
 
Image that your friend is 0,00000000000000000000000000000000001m high:D
 
gbarnett said:
Sorry, I'm not much of a physicist. I have read that extra dimensions may be "small" and curled up. Since height, width, and depth appear to be limitless, I am having a hard time understanding what small means when applied to dimensions. I suspect it has something to do with our 3 spatial dimensions being "flat".

Height, width, and depth actually do appear to be limited. Or at least, there is a smallest possible length, based on the Planck length, which is very small indeed. The idea is that anything smaller would collapse into a mini black hole and dissappear. This result is due to Max Planck, who showed in the early part of last century that certain problems involving black body radiation went away if you assumed a minimum possible length. This minimum length has been generalized to a minimum possible time, the Planck time, and a minimum possible energy, the Planck energy.
 
starkind said:
Height, width, and depth actually do appear to be limited. Or at least, there is a smallest possible length, based on the Planck length, which is very small indeed. The idea is that anything smaller would collapse into a mini black hole and dissappear. This result is due to Max Planck, who showed in the early part of last century that certain problems involving black body radiation went away if you assumed a minimum possible length. This minimum length has been generalized to a minimum possible time, the Planck time, and a minimum possible energy, the Planck energy.
Well yes, but that's not the same as having a small upper limit, which is what the OP is asking about.
 
Hurkyl's respone is what you should concentrate on.

The size of a dimension is defined by how much freedom you have to move in it before you "wrap around".

Imagine an ant walking on a gardenhose; The ant's universe is 50 feet long in one dimension but only 2 inches in another. The ant's travel is unbounded, yet he does not have complete freedom of movement.

One theory of the universe is that length, width and depth are not infinite but will wrap around over billions or trillions of light years.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 14 ·
Replies
14
Views
4K
Replies
20
Views
2K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
4K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
5K
  • · Replies 16 ·
Replies
16
Views
3K
  • · Replies 12 ·
Replies
12
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
3K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
Replies
2
Views
2K