How can an increase in area cause a decrease in drift speed?

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between cross-sectional area and electron drift velocity in a copper wire carrying a constant current. The original poster questions how an increase in area can lead to a decrease in drift speed, referencing the equation I=nAve.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the implications of a constant current on drift velocity and cross-sectional area, with one participant drawing an analogy to water flow in pipes to illustrate the concept.

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Some participants have provided insights into the relationship between current, area, and drift velocity, with one participant expressing clarity after considering the analogy. There is ongoing exploration of the implications of varying resistance and voltage in relation to the original question.

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There is a discussion about the assumption that voltage remains constant when varying the cross-sectional area, with some participants questioning the validity of this assumption in practical scenarios.

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Homework Statement


We have:
I=nAve
Imagine a copper wire with a constant current through it:
I=constant
e=constant
n (for copper)=constant

Hence, we obtain:

A is inversely proportional to electron drift velocity.

My question is: how does that make sense? Why would the cross sectional area increasing lead to the electron drift velocity decreasing?

Thanks

Homework Equations


I=nAve

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Suppose you had a pipe carrying water at a rate of 100 gallons per minute.

A second pipe also carries water at 100 gallons per minute, but has twice the cross-sectional area. How does the speed of the water in the second pipe compare to the speed in the first pipe?
 
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Ah. Now I get it; the second pipe can carry a larger volume, so it has to reduce the speed to keep the discharge of 100 gallons per minute constant. How silly of me!

Thank you very much
 
MBBphys said:
Imagine a copper wire with a constant current through it:
I=constant
e=constant
Actually, the first equation "I=constant" is sufficient for answering the question. Given a constant current, the average drift velocity of the electrons is inversely proportional to the cross-sectional area of the conductor.

The second equation "e=constant" will not be true in general when you vary the cross-sectional area of a conductor. Doing so will vary the resistance of the conductor, so to maintain a constant current I, the voltage "e" will need to change. :smile:
 
berkeman said:
The second equation "e=constant" will not be true in general when you vary the cross-sectional area of a conductor. Doing so will vary the resistance of the conductor, so to maintain a constant current I, the voltage "e" will need to change.

I believe "e" here stands for the magnitude of the electric charge of an electron.
 
TSny said:
I believe "e" here stands for the magnitude of the electric charge of an electron.
LOL. :smile:

If they start varying that in future problems, I'd be a little worried... :wink:
 
berkeman said:
If they start varying that in future problems, I'd be a little worried... :wink:
:biggrin:
 

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