How Can Bernoulli's Equation Be Applied to Flight?

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The original poster seeks to create a sample problem involving Bernoulli's equation, specifically in the context of flight. They express difficulty in understanding the physics involved and have not found suitable examples in their research.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Some participants discuss the components of Bernoulli's equation and their physical interpretations, while others question the understanding of units related to pressure and density. There is an exploration of how energy conservation principles apply to fluid dynamics.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the equation's terms and addressing unit discrepancies. There is a mix of clarifications and questions, indicating a collaborative effort to deepen understanding without reaching a consensus.

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Participants are navigating issues related to unit conversions and the definitions of pressure and density, which are critical for applying Bernoulli's equation correctly. The original poster's request for a sample problem highlights the challenge of finding real-life applications in flight.

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Homework Statement



i need to make a sample problem for a physics project using Bernoulli's equation, the real life situation it must be applied to is flight

Homework Equations


P+.5pv^2+pgy = constant


The Attempt at a Solution


this physics is too involved for my understanding. I've looked in countless textbooks and on many webpages for a sample to base mine on but to no avail.

help much appreciated!
 
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This is a double post, you shouldn't do that! But the physics of the Bernouilli equation is not very involved at all. You probagbly know that there is such a thing as energy (like that of moving boedies or heated objects etc.) and it is conserved. Now Bernoullis equation says that in the absence of friction the energy of a fluid can be approximated by three relevant terms:

P+.5\rho v^2+\rho gy = constant

The 2nd term is the kinetic (motion) energy of the fluid moving with a velocity v; you might know the expression .5 m v^2 for a single object with mass m. In this expression it is divided by the volume to yield the density \rho.

The third expression is the gravitational energy, i.e. the 'potential energy' an object has in a gravitational field. You might know the expression mgh, which is the same when you divide it again by the volume. When you release such an object this energy decreases and the body starts moving, so the kinetic energy increases. Assuming the first term Bernoullis equation implies that the increase in kinetic energy equals the decrease in gravitational 'potential' energy to yield a sum that remains constant.

The first term indicates the heat energy of the fluid (again divided by the volume to yield a description per volume) in terms of the pressure of the fluid.

Now pick a pressure P, a density \rho and a velocity (g=9,8m/s^2). Now Bernouillis law says that at a different point in space (in absence of friction) the sum of the three energies should be the same. E.g. it allows you to calculate the fluids velocity when at the other point all other quantities are known.

Good luck!
 
I am having an issue reconciling the units in the Bernoulli equation I find on the internet:

V^2/2 + P/p = k

V^2/2 units => ft^2/sec^2

P/p units => ft

It would appear that the V^2/2 kinetic term needs to be devided by g (ft/sec^2) but I find that in none of the equations as written, so it leaves a gap in my understanding. What am I missing here?
 
l1nkh0gthr0b said:
P/p units => ft
This is not true.

What are you using for units of P and p? They refer to pressure and density, respectively.
 
units of P are #/ft^2;
units of p are #/ft^3;
then units of P/p are ft.
 
Not quite.

For P, we use pounds-force.
For p, we use pounds-mass.

They are different units.
 
Yes, and the two are related by (g/gc), which makes them interchangable on the Earth's surface. For simplicity I omitted the conversion.
 

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