How can circuit analysis questions be simplified and solved using KCL and KVL?

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around circuit analysis using Kirchhoff's Current Law (KCL) and Kirchhoff's Voltage Law (KVL). The original poster presents two problems from a homework assignment, expressing uncertainty primarily about the first question involving current through resistors and the implications of a current source.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the application of KCL to find relationships between currents through resistors. Questions arise about simplifying the circuit and the implications of voltage drops in the presence of a current source. Some participants suggest using series and parallel resistor combinations to aid in analysis.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the circuit's configuration and current distribution. Some participants offer interpretations and calculations, while others express confusion and seek clarification on the reasoning presented. Multiple interpretations of the circuit setup are being discussed.

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The original poster has attached a document with the problems, but specific details about the circuit configuration are not fully described in the posts. There is mention of a current source and various resistor values, but the exact setup is not clear, leading to differing interpretations among participants.

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Homework Statement


Hey, attached is a word document with the three problems. The third problem gave me no grief but the first two I'm unsure about.


Homework Equations


V=IR


The Attempt at a Solution



Question 1:

let I1 = current flowing through 20kohm resistor
let I2 = current flowing through 6kohm resistor

by KCL:

I1 + I2 = 40,

From here I'm not sure what to do, can I simplify the circuit perhaps? Also the current source confuses me, doesn't KVL say that the voltage generated will equal the voltage dissipated? if there is no voltage generated how can there be a voltage drop?

Question 2:

I honestly have no idea what to do here it all looks like a big jumble.
 

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There is a voltage generated, but it doesn't state it since it's not at all necessary to solve the problem.

To go about Q1, you've stated the correct equation (V=IR), now use that + some knowledge about resistors in series/parallel and voltage drop in series/parallel
 
If V is the voltage at the junction of the 5 K, 20 K and 6 K resistors, can you write a formula to find I1 and I2 in terms of V?
 
Q1, 6k and 4k resister are in series = 10k resister
the current through the 5k is 40amps then it splits between the new 10k and 20k resister (current divider)

I(through the 20K) = 40 (10/10+20) = 40(1/3) = 13.33 amps
 
To person above; are you sure about that? 'Cause that's not the current I get.. and I can't quite understand what you'e done either.
 
for Q1:
the right side of the circuit had a 6k and 4k resister in series, these 2 resistors can be replaced with a 10k resister (eqiv resistance between 2 resisters in series is the sum)

so the circuit is a 40 a current source then a 5k resister then has 10k and 20k resistors in parallel

the current through resisters in series is the same so think there is 40amps going into the node after the 5k resister (doesn't affect the current through the 20k b/c is in series with it)

that means 40amps is going to go either through the 10k resister or 20k resister = current divider

wikipedia does a decent explanation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Current_divider

so I(through 20k) = 40 amps ( 10k/ (10K + 20k)) = 13.33 amps

hope this does a better job, if you still don't understand tell me exactly what part and I'll try to do a better job. What were you doing to get a different answer, and if you did get a different answer what do you see wrong with what I do.
 

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