How can continued fractions be used to prove a deep result in mathematics?

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The discussion revolves around the use of continued fractions to establish a relationship involving the equation \(x^2 - ax - b = 0\) where \(a\) and \(b\) are positive constants. The original poster seeks to demonstrate that \(\sqrt{\alpha^{2}+\beta}\) can be expressed as a continued fraction, drawing connections between algebraic expressions and their continued fraction representations.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to transform the quadratic equation into a continued fraction but encounters difficulties in finding suitable values for \(a\) and \(b\). They also explore the canonical continued fraction algorithm for \(\sqrt{\alpha^{2}+\beta}\) but struggle with combining different fractions. Participants discuss the implications of setting specific values for \(a\) and \(b\) and question the effectiveness of previous attempts.

Discussion Status

Some participants have revisited earlier suggestions regarding the values of \(a\) and \(b\) and found them to be effective upon re-evaluation. The conversation reflects a collaborative exploration of the problem, with participants sharing insights and acknowledging the evolving nature of their understanding.

Contextual Notes

There is an indication of uncertainty regarding the combination of different continued fractions and the implications of variable choices on the overall solution. The discussion highlights the dynamic nature of mathematical problem-solving and the influence of collaborative input on individual understanding.

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Homework Statement


Let x be any positive real number and suppose that ##x^2-ax-b=0## where ##a,b## are positive. I would like to use the equation that I provided in relevant equations which I proved to prove that
$$
\sqrt{\alpha^{2}+\beta}=\alpha+\cfrac{\beta}{2 \alpha+\cfrac{\beta}{2 \alpha+\cfrac{\beta}{2\alpha+\ddots}}}
$$
where ##\alpha,\beta>0##.

Homework Equations


I proved that
$$
x=a+\cfrac{b}{a+\cfrac{b}{a+\cfrac{b}{a+\ddots}}}.
$$

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried to do things like find values of ##a,b## so that when I transformed the equation ##x^{2}-ax-b=0## into a continued fraction that I would get the desired continued fraction with ##x=\sqrt{\alpha^{2}+\beta}## but that didn't work out.

I also tried changing ##\sqrt{\alpha^{2}+\beta}## directly into a continued fraction using the canonical continued fraction algorithm but I then had to consider different values of ##\beta## which would give me different continued fractions that I didn't really know how to combine to create the desired continued fraction.

I tried to plug ##x=\sqrt{\alpha^{2}+\beta}## into ##x^{2}-ax-b=0## and then solve for ##a,b## but that didn't get too far with two variables and one equation.
 
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If you set a = 2α and b = β, what are the roots of x2-ax-b?
 
haruspex said:
If you set a = 2α and b = β, what are the roots of x2-ax-b?

I don't know why but I remember trying that and it didn't work but now that I try it again after you mention it, it works. Thanks!
 
DeadOriginal said:
I don't know why but I remember trying that and it didn't work but now that I try it again after you mention it, it works. Thanks!
A deep result in maths is that arithmetic and algebraic results are NOT static over time, but depend on what help you get!
:smile:
 
arildno said:
A deep result in maths is that arithmetic and algebraic results are NOT static over time, but depend on what help you get!
:smile:

Amen! Haha.
 

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