How can I accurately calculate the duration of a free fall jump?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the duration of a free fall jump, specifically focusing on a scenario where a man jumps to a height of 2.7 meters. Participants are exploring the physics of vertical motion and the appropriate equations to use in this context.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the use of kinematic equations and the interpretation of variables such as total distance versus height. There is a focus on whether the initial velocity is zero and how that affects calculations. Some participants question the assumptions made about the total distance of the jump.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the errors in calculations and clarifying concepts related to vertical motion. Some guidance has been offered regarding the symmetry of the motion and the need to consider the time for both ascent and descent.

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There is mention of a discrepancy between the calculated time and the answer provided in a textbook, which may influence the participants' understanding of the problem. Additionally, the assumption of initial velocity being zero is under scrutiny.

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A. Here is the stated inquiry:

A man jumps to a vertical height of 2.7 m. How long was he in the air
before returning to Earth?

B. Equations used:

Y = Yo + volt + (1/2)gT2 (Y because motion is in the vertical direction)

C. Attempted solution:
Because the total distance was twice the man’s highest point (5.4m total) I
used 5.4 rather than 2.7.

Y = Yo + volt + (1/2)gT2
5.4 = 0 + 0 + ½ (9.8)(t2)
T = 1.05 s

I checked the answer in the back of the book, which was 1.5, but I have been able to come to this solution. Any direction as to what I am doing incorrectly?
 
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ScienceGeek said:
B. Equations used:

Y = Yo + volt + (1/2)gT2 (Y because motion is in the vertical direction)
Realize that Y is the object's position (or height), not distance traveled.

C. Attempted solution:
Because the total distance was twice the man’s highest point (5.4m total) I
used 5.4 rather than 2.7.
That's your error. The man never reached a height of y = 5.4m!
 
I attempted calculations using the total displacement as 0, and again as position = 2.7m, but I'm missing something because I just can't get the answer. This seems like it should be much simpler. I'm assuming the initial velocity is zero, but is that an incorrect assumption? Should I be trying to calculate V first?
 
ScienceGeek said:
I'm assuming the initial velocity is zero, but is that an incorrect assumption?
If the initial speed was zero (at the moment he left the ground) how far would he get?

Express the initial velocity in terms of other variables: acceleration and time. (Use another kinematic formula relating them.)

You can also use symmetry to make life easier: The motion going up is the exact reverse of the motion going down. So you only need to find the time it takes for half the motion and then double it.
 
Thank you. I was half-way there, just forgot to double the time.
 

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