How can I calculate the angle of an airplane's wings during a circular motion?

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The problem involves calculating the angle of an airplane's wings during circular motion, specifically how the banking angle relates to the forces acting on the airplane as it turns. The subject area includes concepts from dynamics and circular motion.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the forces acting on the airplane, including weight and lift, and how these forces interact when the airplane banks to turn. There are attempts to relate the lift force to the centripetal force required for circular motion.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the forces involved and how they relate to the banking angle. Some guidance has been provided regarding the relationship between the lift force and the weight of the airplane, but there is no explicit consensus on the final approach or solution.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information available and the methods they can use. There is also some confusion regarding terminology, such as the use of "normal force" in the context of aviation.

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Homework Statement


A pilot with mass m fles an airplane at a speed of v in a turn of radius r. Prove that angle of the wings of the airplane to the horizontal is tanQ=(VxV)/gr


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This was asked on my first exam last week.
Since it's tangent. All we need to get is the force, result will equal to (FxcosQ)/(FxSinQ)=(VxV)/gr?

I'm not getting anywhere with this? Can someone help me?
 
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The issue we are concerned with here is how we get the plane to move along a circle of radius r. Start with thinking about the plane flying with the wings level (in a horizontal plane). There are two forces acting on the plane in the vertical direction: its weight, Mg, and the "lift", L, supplied by the wings. With the plane in level flight, these vertical forces must balance.

Now we want the plane to make a turn, so we "bank" the wings by an angle Q. So the "lifting force" will be off-vertical by an angle Q; since it must still balance the weight of the plane vertically, its magnitude will change to L' . (How is it related to Mg?)

This altered lifting force now has a horizontal component as well. This component of L', which will equal L' sin Q , is what supplies the centripetal force to pull the plane into a circular path (for the interval of the wing-banking). So we have

L' sin Q = M·(v^2)/r .

Try things from there.

BTW, a similar argument can be used to explain why a cyclist (leg- or motor-powered) must "lean into the turn" when they want to go round a corner...
 
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oh, I think i got it.

So we got our force FnXsinQ=m.a=m.(vXv)/r, also the other component is "mg", so

when you divide those two, you will get mvv/gr.

thanks a lot.
 
Thiendrah said:
So we got our force FnXsinQ=m.a=m.(vXv)/r, also the other component is "mg", so

when you divide those two, you will get mvv/gr.

I'm presuming that what you are calling 'Fn' corresponds to the lift force; there is no normal force for an aviation problem. The lift force when the plane is banked by an angle Q will be L' = mg/cos Q .

In your last sentence, shouldn't the mass m have divided out?
 

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