How Can I Calculate the Magnitude of Momentum in a Game of Pool?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the magnitude of momentum in a game of pool, specifically focusing on the momentum of a ball before and after it hits a wall. The subject area includes concepts of linear momentum and vector components.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the calculations for momentum components and question the interpretation of the problem, particularly regarding the distinction between magnitude and change in momentum. There is a focus on the vector nature of momentum and how direction affects the calculations.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, exploring different interpretations of the momentum calculations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to consider changes in direction rather than just magnitude. There is no explicit consensus yet, as participants are still clarifying their understanding of the problem requirements.

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There is an emphasis on understanding the vector nature of momentum, with specific reference to the change in momentum upon collision. Participants are also navigating the implications of the problem statement, which may not have been fully clear initially.

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Homework Statement



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Homework Equations



Px = mVcostheta
Py = mVsintheta
Theta = tan-1(y/x)
Magnitude of P = (Px^2 + Py^2)^(1/2)

The Attempt at a Solution



Px = .165*2.84cos64.6 = .201 N*s
Py = .165*2.84sin64.6 = .4233 N*s
a) Theta2 = tan-1(-.4233/.201) = 64.6 degrees

b) (.201^2+.4233^2)^(1/2) = .4686 N*s

My work for part a may just have been luck or not needed but I obviously did something wrong since my answer in part b is wrong. Did I use wrong numbers for part b? Or am I supposed to calculate something else then find the magnitude?
 
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well, part (b) asks you to find change in linear momentum, not the magnitude of linear momentum (what you have done). See in the picture, linear momentum is a vector, those two arrows represent linear momentum before ball hits the wall and after. Directions are different, aren't they? ;] so linear momentum has changed, not in magnitude, but in direction. As problem statement says, only y part of momentum has changed. So just find this change in momentum
 
housemartin said:
well, part (b) asks you to find change in linear momentum, not the magnitude of linear momentum (what you have done). See in the picture, linear momentum is a vector, those two arrows represent linear momentum before ball hits the wall and after. Directions are different, aren't they? ;] so linear momentum has changed, not in magnitude, but in direction. As problem statement says, only y part of momentum has changed. So just find this change in momentum

Wait so if I get what you are saying. It is just putting a negative sign on the Momentum I found in the y direction of part a and having that be my answer for part b? To me that's the only logical answer unless I'm not understanding something. Is that right or wrong?
 
first, balls momentum along y-axis was directed in positive direction, after bounce - in negative. So Py(1) = +.4233 N*s and Py(2) = -.4233 N*s. What is the change in momentum then?
 
Is the change in momentum = P1*P2cos(theta)
 

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