How can I convert this function into a differential equation?

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The discussion revolves around converting a given function into a differential equation. The original poster presents a differential equation involving variables x and y, and seeks to transform it into a new form using variables X and Y.

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  • Participants explore the transformation of the differential equation from variables x and y to X and Y, questioning the original poster's understanding of the conversion process. There is discussion about applying the chain rule and the implications of variable substitution.

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Some participants provide guidance on how to approach the transformation, suggesting the use of the chain rule and variable substitution. The original poster expresses uncertainty about the correctness of their answer compared to a provided solution, indicating that multiple interpretations of the problem may be present.

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The original poster mentions a discrepancy between their answer and a given solution, which may involve logarithmic expressions. There is also a reference to a blurred photo that may contain relevant information.

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dy/dx = (2x +y -1) / ( 4x -2y +1) , x= X +1 , y = Y-1 ,, how to make it into differential equation ? my ans is not same as the ans given .
P/s : in the second photo , it's lnx +c , sorry for the blur photo

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What you give already is a differential equation! Do you mean "change from a differential equation in x and y to a differential equation in X and Y"? If you can immediately replace x and y on the right side of the equation by X+ 1 and Y- 1. For the left side, use the "chain" rule:
\frac{dy}{dx}= \frac{dy}{dY}\frac{dY}{dx}= \frac{dy}{dY}\frac{dY}{dX}\frac{dX}{dx}.
 
HallsofIvy said:
What you give already is a differential equation! Do you mean "change from a differential equation in x and y to a differential equation in X and Y"? If you can immediately replace x and y on the right side of the equation by X+ 1 and Y- 1. For the left side, use the "chain" rule:
\frac{dy}{dx}= \frac{dy}{dY}\frac{dY}{dx}= \frac{dy}{dY}\frac{dY}{dX}\frac{dX}{dx}.
in the photo posted , i have already showed that dy/ dY = 1 , dx/dX =1 , so i can conclude that dy=dY , dx=dX , so for the original dy/dx , i can make it as dY/dX , and replace the x as X+1 , and y = Y+1 , so i have dY/dX = (2X+Y) / (X+2Y)
 
hotjohn said:
in the photo posted , i have already showed that dy/ dY = 1 , dx/dX =1 , so i can conclude that dy=dY , dx=dX , so for the original dy/dx , i can make it as dY/dX , and replace the x as X+1 , and y = Y+1 , so i have dY/dX = (2X+Y) / (X+2Y)
But , i still didnt get the ans
 
Well, what was the "ans given"? And are you sure you are not getting it? In your first post, you have your answer as an equation involving several logarithms. You can use the "laws of logarithms" to reduce your equation to "ln(A)= ln(B)" and then take the exponential of both sides to get "A= B".
 

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