How Can I Derive a Contradiction from This Mathematical Statement?

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The discussion focuses on deriving a contradiction from the assumption that $\sqrt{5} = a + b\sqrt[4]{2} + c\sqrt[4]{4} + d\sqrt[4]{8}$, where $a,b,c,d \in \mathbb{Q}$. This is part of an effort to prove the irreducibility of the polynomial $x^4-2$ over the field $\mathbb{Q}(\sqrt{5})$. The proposed method involves multiplying the equation by the least common multiple of the denominators of $a,b,c,d$, leading to a new equation in integers. The final form suggests that a contradiction can be reached by showing that a certain polynomial equation has no rational roots.

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How can I derive a contradiction from the following nasty statement:

Assume $\sqrt{5} = a + b\sqrt[4]{2} + c\sqrt[4]{4} + d\sqrt[4]{8},$ with $a,b,c,d \in \mathbb{Q}$?

*This is the last piece of an effort to prove that the polynomial $x^4-2$ is irreducible over $\mathbb{Q}(\sqrt{5}).$*
 
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kalish said:
How can I derive a contradiction from the following nasty statement:

Assume $\sqrt{5} = a + b\sqrt[4]{2} + c\sqrt[4]{4} + d\sqrt[4]{8},$ with $a,b,c,d \in \mathbb{Q}$?

*This is the last piece of an effort to prove that the polynomial $x^4-2$ is irreducible over $\mathbb{Q}(\sqrt{5}).$*

Since no one has replied I'll give it a crack (at the risk of leading you astray).

Let's multiply your equation through by the least common multiple of the denominators of a,b,c and d. I'll call that number e. Then we have:

$e \sqrt{5} = a' + b'\sqrt[4]{2} + c'\sqrt[4]{4} + d'\sqrt[4]{8},$ with $a',b',c',d',e \in \mathbb{Z}$

Let's define $x=\sqrt[4]{2}$

so:
$e \sqrt{5} = a' + b'x + c'x^2 + d'x^3,$ with $a',b',c',d',e \in \mathbb{Z}$

squaring both sides and defining a",b",c",d",e" appropriately:
$5e''= a''+ b''x + c''x^2 + d''x^3,$ with $a'',b'',c'',d'',e'' \in \mathbb{Z}$

or
$a'''+ b''x + c''x^2 + d''x^3=0$, with $a''',b'',c'',d'' \in \mathbb{Z}$ and $x \not\in \mathbb{Q}$

It seems to me it must be possible to disprove this last statement. But I can't see how.
 

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