How can I find the proof for the Poncelet-Steiner Theorem?

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The discussion revolves around finding a proof for the Poncelet-Steiner Theorem, which states that all Euclidean geometric constructions can be performed with a straightedge alone if one is given the radius of a single circle and its center. Participants seek references, sources, and confirmations regarding the theorem and its proof.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests sources for the proof of the Poncelet-Steiner Theorem, indicating a lack of knowledge on the topic.
  • Another participant suggests the book "Geometric Constructions" by George E. Martin as a source for the proof.
  • A follow-up inquiry seeks confirmation that the proof exists in the suggested book before making a purchase.
  • Participants share a link to a Google Books page that appears to reference the theorem but raises questions about the equivalence of the statements presented.
  • One participant notes a potential discrepancy between the theorem they are looking for and the one stated in the book, prompting a discussion about their equivalence.
  • Additional sources are provided, including a link to another book that contains a proof and a mention of "College Geometry" by Howard Eves, which may also include a proof.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the equivalence of the two statements regarding the Poncelet-Steiner Theorem, and there is uncertainty about the availability of the proof in the suggested sources.

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There are unresolved questions regarding the definitions and equivalence of the statements related to the Poncelet-Steiner Theorem, as well as the availability of the proof in the referenced books.

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PONCELET-STEINER Theorem?

Hi everyone,

A friend of mine asked me if i knew of any place where he could find the proof to the Poncelet-Steiner Theorem, so since i knew of none, i thought someone here must know.

The theorem's statement is as follows: All Euclidean geometric constructions can be carried out with a straightedge alone if, in addition, one is given the radius of a single circle and its center.

So, if anyone could tell me a book, a website or something along those lines, where i could find the proof to that theorem i would appreciate it.


All the best!
 
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I recall seeing a proof of this theorem is the following book: Geometric Constructions by George E. Martin.

I sincerely hope this helps.

Regards
 


Condor77 said:
I recall seeing a proof of this theorem is the following book: Geometric Constructions by George E. Martin.

I sincerely hope this helps.

Regards

Thanks for the refference. This book seems to cost about 45$ in amazon, and if that proof is really there( i am not saying that you are wrong about it) then i'll most probbably purchase that book. So, is there any way that you could confirm for sure that this proof is in that book, so i don't have to spend that money invain(buying a math book is never a waste of money, however i personally don't need that book for the moment so...) ??

Regards!
 


can anyone confirm this, direct me to some other source, or even show a proof here?
 


Werg22 said:

Hi Werg22,

Thanks for your input. I have no knowledge of these topics so pardone my ignorance.

I came across that theorem too, but it seems to be different from the one i stated on my first post. Is it just differently worded, or is it a different theorem.

The theorem that my friend is lookig for says:( i am restating it as he emailed it to me)All Euclidean geometric constructions can be carried out with a straightedge alone if, in addition, one is given the radius of a single circle and its center.

Wheras, the theorem that is listed in that book(pg.98) says:

Theorem 6.2(The Poncelet-Steiner Theorem):A point is a ruler and circle point iff the point is a ruler and compas point).


Are these two statements equivalent?

Many thanks!
 
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Thanks a lot guys!

Both of you have been very heplful!
 

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