How can I get my dog to teach me a new trick? (serious q.)

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The discussion revolves around training a dog to signal when it needs to go outside, focusing on behavioral cues and training techniques. Participants share experiences, suggestions, and personal anecdotes related to dog training, particularly for a highly intelligent breed.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes their dog's current behavior of pacing as a signal to go outside, noting that it is not effective due to its commonality.
  • Another participant expresses surprise at the idea of searching for solutions online, highlighting a lack of prior knowledge about dog training resources.
  • Some participants suggest that the dog may be training the owner to respond to her needs, with one recommending the installation of a dog door to allow for more freedom.
  • A participant mentions a recent training session with a professional dog trainer, outlining specific lessons focused on reward-based learning and attention to the owner.
  • There is a discussion about the dog's intelligence and need for mental stimulation, with some advocating for allowing the dog to go outside more freely to enrich its life.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a variety of views on the effectiveness of different training methods and the implications of allowing the dog more freedom. There is no consensus on the best approach to training the dog to signal its needs.

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Some limitations include the dependence on the dog's behavior patterns, the variability in training methods, and the potential risks associated with allowing the dog unsupervised access to the outdoors.

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Dog owners, particularly first-time owners, those interested in animal behavior, and individuals seeking training techniques for their pets may find this discussion relevant.

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I want to get my* dog to tell me when she needs to go outside.
* not actually my dog

Her current "signal" is to simply pace back and forth from the foyer to the dining room. Unfortunately, this is pretty normal behavior for her (because she's highly intelligent and therefore gets bored). So I don't notice right away she needs to go out until she's desperate.

When I finally get up to let her out, she jumps at the door - but she does not do that until I'm up and moving (i.e. too late to be useful as a signal).

There's a set of chimes next to the door knob right next to where she jumps, and I jangle it every time I open the door for her. I was really hoping she would learn to do her jumps two inches to the right, and would this jangle them when she wanted to go out, but she does not.

She's a 7 year old giant German Spitz. Like this, but 50 lbs.:
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Thank you. It quite frankly never occurred to me that this was a Googleable thing. (As a first-time animal owner, it just never occurred to me that there were other owners who might have had this particular problem. Or that I had acquired generic life skills (like Googling) that could be applied).
 
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DaveC426913 said:
Thank you. It quite frankly never occurred to me that this was a Googleable thing. (As a first-time animal owner, it just never occurred to me that there were other owners who might have had this particular problem. Or that I had acquired generic life skills (like Googling) that could be applied).
Some of us are interested in what success results from your effort.
 
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Racing ahead:
Once your dog gets you trained, you'll be going to the door a lot more. Sometimes because she (apparently) just wants to see you get up. IMHO, a dog door is worth whatever trouble is required (if that's an option for you).
 
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Racing ahead:
Once your dog gets you trained, you'll be going to the door a lot more. Sometimes because she (apparently) just wants to see you get up.
One of those videos addresses that issue of "does she need to go pee, or does she just want to go outside?"

Besides, this dog is highly intelligent and needs a lot of mental stimulation. And is needy.
If going outside whenever she wants helps enrich her life, I'm all for it.

Dullard said:
IMHO, a dog door is worth whatever trouble is required (if that's an option for you).
I installed dog doors on either end of my (detached) porch/deck so she can move freely. But I have decided not to install one on the house. We have a pond and a pool, so I don't want her going out without someone knowing about it.
 
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She had her first training session today with a pro dog trainer.

Lesson 1: 'It's your choice'
In which Luna learns to choose to wait for a reward over trying to grab what's in front of her.

Lesson 2: 'What's your name?'
In which Luna learns that if she looks to her owner when her name is called, she will get rewarded.
 

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