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The discussion revolves around the challenges of accessing academic journals, particularly for individuals seeking to further their academic careers, such as aspiring professors or researchers. Participants explore various strategies for obtaining journal access, the necessity of formal education, and the implications of publishing in academia.

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  • One participant expresses desperation over losing access to academic journals through their university alum account and seeks affordable alternatives.
  • Another suggests that obtaining a faculty position is essential for accessing journals, implying that institutional login is necessary for research.
  • Some participants argue that publishing a book is not a viable path to becoming a tenured professor without first obtaining a doctorate and conducting original research.
  • Several participants propose enrolling in continuing education classes as a potential way to regain library privileges for journal access.
  • There is a discussion about the necessity of publishing academic papers before being able to publish a book, particularly in the sciences.
  • One participant shares their experience of accessing journals at a large university library despite not being a student or faculty member.
  • Some participants mention that certain universities offer guest cards or services to the public for accessing journals.
  • There is a debate about the qualifications of a participant who claims expertise in "Finnegans Wake," with questions raised about their academic journey and access to graduate school.

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Participants express multiple competing views regarding the best approach to accessing academic journals and the requirements for pursuing an academic career. The discussion remains unresolved, with no consensus on a singular effective strategy.

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Participants highlight various limitations, including the high costs of journal subscriptions and the challenges of gaining access without formal university affiliation. There are also references to personal experiences that may not be universally applicable.

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Individuals interested in pursuing academic careers, particularly in fields requiring access to academic literature, as well as those exploring alternative methods for obtaining journal access.

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I'm dead, finished, there's no hope for me. My dreams to become a tenured professor are ruined unless I can find a way to read academic journals again. I was reading academic journals using my alum account with my university but they recently took those privileges away for unknown reasons. If I can't find a way to read academic journals than I'm finished and I will never get to become a professor. Actually, I guess it's more about doing my research then becoming a professor. I'm going to try to beg of course to get those privileges back, using even bribery but I don't think they will listen. I know how these people work. They don't like to help people.

There's lots of open access journals out there but that's not good enough. I need access to all journals. I've tried subscribing to J-stor and Ebsco but they won't let you. They don't want to sell their services.

I need to find some service that allows me to pay a reasonable price (200 dollars a year) to read all academic journals.
 
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If you want to become a tenured professor then you're going to have to get a job as a faculty member at a university. Obviously this will get you an institutional login to access journals for your research which will be necessary to become a professor.
 
a postdoc or some other type of research position is necessary to even stay in the game for becoming a professor.
 
I can't even get into graduate school because I got bad grades as an undergrad back in 2000. To get back into the academic game I need to publish a book that amazes everyone. I can't publish a book unless I have access to academic journals.
 
You may want to try enrolling in a continuing education class with a university that will extend library priviledges to you. This is probably the easiest way to maintain such access and likely isn't that expensive. It does require you to put forth some effort into a class though.

I'm not sure your "publish a book that amazes everyone" theory for getting into academia is the most constructive avenue to pursue if you're really serious about it. But certainly reading the literature about your interests is.
 
g.lemaitre said:
I can't even get into graduate school because I got bad grades as an undergrad back in 2000. To get back into the academic game I need to publish a book that amazes everyone. I can't publish a book unless I have access to academic journals.

You will not become a tenured professor by publishing a book. You will need a doctorate; you will also need to have performed original research. How do you intend to do either of these things without going to graduate school?
 
Choppy said:
You may want to try enrolling in a continuing education class with a university that will extend library priviledges to you. This is probably the easiest way to maintain such access and likely isn't that expensive. It does require you to put forth some effort into a class though.

I'm not sure your "publish a book that amazes everyone" theory for getting into academia is the most constructive avenue to pursue if you're really serious about it. But certainly reading the literature about your interests is.

Actually I did that in 2011. I enrolled in some undergrad classes that I hoped would convince admins that I was serious about going back to grad school. It didn't. Plus the costs and the time took away from my research. It was then that I resolved was that the only avenue to get back into academia was to publish something. I'm actually in philosophy and literature but with a heavy science focus. Most of the assistant humanities professors haven't published a book or barely even an article. So if you can publish a book you're already more accomplished than about 70% of the humanities phds.

Incidentally since this is a physics website I guess everyone has heard of Finnegans Wake given the name quarks. Well, I'm one of the top experts on that book in the world though not the top. It's quite obvious who the top expert but he can't publish a book on the Wake because he doesn't want to.
 
Number Nine said:
You will not become a tenured professor by publishing a book. You will need a doctorate; you will also need to have performed original research. How do you intend to do either of these things without going to graduate school?

First, publish a book, then go to grad school.
 
g.lemaitre said:
So if you can publish a book you're already more accomplished than about 70% of the humanities phds.

No. Most PhD's don't publish books because publishing books is not what PhD's do.
 
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Number Nine said:
No. Most PhD's don't publish books because publishing books is not what PhD's do.

In the sciences, but not in philosophy. But in order to publish an academic book you have to start out with papers. No publisher will publish an academic book unless the author has a trackrecord. That's why I'm starting out with papers.
 
  • #11
Your idea will not work, at all. You need to figure out how to get into graduate school in physics. Looking at your posts, you need to get a formal education in physics before thinking about writing a book.
 
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Jorriss said:
Your idea will not work, at all. You need to figure out how to get into graduate school in physics. Looking at your posts, you need to get a formal education in physics before thinking about writing a book.

I'm not trying to get into grad school in physics but in philosophy or poetry.

In any case, suffice it say no one knows how I can find a way to read academic journals without paying a uni tuition.
 
  • #13
The problem is not that they are unavailable. The problem is that you don't want to pay what the publisher charges. That's not going to be an easy thing to get around.

On the plus side, there is nothing in a physics journal that will help you get into grad school in poetry or philosophy.
 
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g.lemaitre said:
I'm not trying to get into grad school in physics but in philosophy or poetry.

In any case, suffice it say no one knows how I can find a way to read academic journals without paying a uni tuition.
Usually one goes to the library and reads the journals on the shelves. It's a great way to spend an evening or weekend.
 
  • #15
I work at a small college whose library does not have a large collection of printed journals. In the days before Internet journal databases, when I wanted to look up journal articles, I sometimes drove to the nearest large university library, about 70 miles away.[*] Even though I wasn't a student or faculty member there, I could walk in, browse the shelves, and sit at a table and read. Maybe things are different now as far as such access is concerned.[*] Uphill both ways, in a raging blizzard. :wink:
 
  • #16
Some universities also offer guest cards and some services to the general public.
 
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dustbin said:
Some universities also offer guest cards and some services to the general public.

I need to find a uni who is wishing to sell that service. Harvard by the way announced that they are considering it since they are losing money with the current system they got.
 
  • #18
What exactly are you planning on writing a book on anyhow?
 
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g.lemaitre said:
Incidentally since this is a physics website I guess everyone has heard of Finnegans Wake given the name quarks. Well, I'm one of the top experts on that book in the world though not the top. It's quite obvious who the top expert but he can't publish a book on the Wake because he doesn't want to.

Ok, I'll bite: what qualifies you to be regarded as one of the world's top experts on Finnegans Wake, and why is a person with such a qualification unable to get into grad school?
 
  • #20
Mute said:
Ok, I'll bite: what qualifies you to be regarded as one of the world's top experts on Finnegans Wake, and why is a person with such a qualification unable to get into grad school?

I made a big mistake in boasting. Now I have to justify that boast. I should have kept my mouth shut. Live and learn.

The lead expert has a website with 80,000 footnotes on the book. He's done the hard work of making all the footnotes accessible to a person in an easy format. But he has no ambitions to explain what the book means. The website is called fweet. According to him I'm the leading contributor to the site. I'm not saying I am the leading expert on the book, after all I haven't proven myself, but one of maybe 10 or 20.

As for why I can't get into grad school I haven't yet published on the Wake. I have bigger ambitions right now. That still doesn't answer why I can't get into grad school. I got bad grades as an undergrad back in 2000, 2.3 gpa. With 200 candidates and only 10 seats it's very hard to beat the other 10 candidates with such a bad undergraduate gpa. Going back to undergrad and lifting my gpa is not economical. Even if I were to do it, it would cost roughly 20,000 dollars and take 2 years, not to mention waste about 1000 hours of time. All that time and money could be spent better elsewhere. Besides although being an independent intellectual is certainly not fun, one can adapt to that lifestyle. There's always hope.
 
  • #21
I don't really understand why you are asking all of this on a physics forum. Wouldn't this discussion be more suitable on a humanities or english website?

And really, posting footnotes on a website does not mean that you are a leading expert.
The most prolific poster on PF is Doc Al (with an astonishing 38000 posts!). And while I don't want to underestimate the awesomeness and intelligence of Doc Al, posting on a forum does not make you a leading expert in physics.

Who knows, maybe all the leading experts on Finnegan's Wake don't want to post on site? Just because you have the time and dedication for it, doesn't necessarily make you a leading expert.
 
  • #22
I have no idea if you will become a professor or not. I doubt it, because it is not about the person who is the most qualified, but the most popular one who has played all his cards right, just like in politics.

In Europe most university libraries will offer access to journals either to the public or to people with "guest" or "pensioner" status. If you have some kind of master title you might even be able to get a PhD because professors don't care all that much, if you do the work and they don't have to pay you. If you are truly the expert on your topic, and you want the world to know about it, by all means publish your book. Great theories have been born from people who were not taken seriously at the time of publishing. But don't expect the book to sell, or to get recognition or anything like that unless you have people who promote your work.

From my point of view most of the humanities research is bollocks, and as there are no criteria to objectively judge the quality of humanities work, promotion into a professorship due to ingenious discoveries is pretty much impossible, unlike for example in mathematics.
 

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