How Can I Pursue a Career in Arctic Ice Physics Research?

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The discussion revolves around pursuing a career in Arctic ice physics research, exploring educational pathways, research opportunities, and potential career roles in polar environments. Participants share insights on relevant academic programs, fieldwork experiences, and the competitive nature of research positions in Antarctica.

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  • One participant expresses a desire to work in Arctic research, considering majors in physics or geology with geophysics emphasis, and is uncertain about which path aligns better with their interests in outdoor research.
  • Another participant suggests consulting with the ice physics graduate program at UAF and the undergraduate departments for guidance on the best academic path.
  • A participant mentions the University of Delaware's graduate program, which sends students to the Antarctic observatory IceCube, highlighting the connection between high-energy observational astronomy and geophysics.
  • Information is shared about a University center in Svalbard offering ice physics subjects and Arctic expeditions as part of their courses.
  • Concerns are raised about the competitive nature of research positions in Antarctica, noting that even technical support roles often require advanced degrees.
  • Anecdotal evidence is provided regarding a former co-worker's experience at the South Pole, illustrating the diverse roles available and the challenges of securing such positions.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the best educational path or the nature of work in Arctic research, with multiple competing views on the relevance of physics versus geoscience departments for the desired career.

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Limitations include the lack of specific details on the application processes for various programs and the competitive nature of roles in polar research, which may depend on individual qualifications and experiences.

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Individuals interested in pursuing careers in Arctic research, students considering relevant academic programs, and those curious about the logistics and opportunities of working in polar environments.

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Something I have always dreamed of doing is working in the arctic and doing research on something in the physical sciences whether it be atmospheric sciences, glaciology or some sort of ice physics where they are taking samples of the ice and doing research on them living in the arctic (or antarctic) for long periods of time. I don't have very much guidance on how to get there at all. One thing I will be doing is going to University Of Alaska Fairbanks next year (hopefully as a 2ed year transfer as i am a first year community college student) and then be able to start getting involved somehow with the research that goes on up there regarding this. I am also trying to figure out if I should go into their PHYSICS MAJOR OR GEOLOGY WITH GEOPHYSICS EMPHASIS MAJOR. With the physics major I can specialize in space physics which sounds extremely interesting to me but seems to lack the outdoors part of the research I am looking for and I feel like it would all be inside. UAF also, has a ICE Physics graduate program in their geological sciences department that intrigues me and when I go to look on the faculty pages quite a few of them seem to go out into the field and do this sort of research. I just fear this kind of work is going to lack on the science end quite a bit. Also, one last thing, I have heard of Research Phds going to Antarctica for like a few years to do their research and it is like an actual program, has anyone heard of this or something similar?
 
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Well if UAF has a ice physics grad program, I'd talk to them and see what they recommend. Also, talk to the undergrad departments you are thinking about and see what they recommend.

Off hand, I would suspect the work you are interested in doing occurs mostly in geoscience departments and not in physics departments. Possibly planetary science too.

I had a friend who worked at UAF (he still might) in the Geophysics Institute. He was studying space plasmas. Not sure how much outdoor work he ended up doing, but I do think he was in NZ for a bit and possibly Antarctica for work.
 
The University of Delaware's graduate program regularly sends students to the antarctic observatory IceCube (UD actually runs the research there). They do a fair bit of high energy observational astronomy (detecting GMB's, etc.) but there are also fairly involved in the geophysics there. Of course you'd need to work with the professors who do it though.
 
There is a University center at Svalbard that has several ice physics subjects, expeditions in the arctic included in the courses, which you can exchange to.

http://www.unis.no/studies/Arctic_Geophysics/arctic_geophysics_courses.htm
 
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Also, one last thing, I have heard of Research Phds going to Antarctica for like a few years to do their research and it is like an actual program, has anyone heard of this or something similar?
Research is the primary reason most of those Antarctic stations exist, including the Amundsen–Scott South Pole Station.

They also need cooks, people to haul the garbage, people to communicate with the rest of the world, lab technicians, etc. Competition for those slots is intense. A lab technician job that elsewhere would need someone with only an associates degree -- you'll need at least a bachelors degree to have half a chance, and a master degree would be better.

A former co-worker spent a winter at the South Pole. His wife was doing some research that was so hot (cold?) that the NSF contacted her. She came home one day and said "Honey, I'm going to spend a year at the South Pole. Do you want to join me?" (Implied: Or get a divorce.) With a masters degree and some coercion by the NSF he just managed to land one of those technical support spots that elsewhere a smart person with an associates degree would be able to do.
 

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