How can i show that both limits exist and are equal to 0? I attached

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The discussion revolves around demonstrating the existence and equality of two limits, specifically showing that both limits approach 0. The context involves limits related to algorithms and summations, with references to logarithmic expressions and their manipulation.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the application of L'Hopital's rule and the interpretation of logarithmic expressions, questioning whether certain forms can be rewritten. There is also mention of using induction and evaluating specific cases.

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The discussion is ongoing, with various approaches being explored, including L'Hopital's rule and the manipulation of logarithmic terms. Some participants express uncertainty about the validity of their methods and the rewriting of expressions.

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There is a mention of potential confusion regarding the interpretation of "i" in the context of limits, as well as the specific forms of logarithmic expressions being analyzed. Participants are navigating the complexities of these mathematical concepts without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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How can i show that both limits exist and are equal to 0? I attached limits as bmp file

"i" refers to "i times" not complex number so you can ignore. This formula is calculated after analysis of algortihms by using summations.
 

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ozlem675 said:
How can i show that both limits exist and are equal to 0? I attached limits as bmp file

"i" refers to "i times" not complex number so you can ignore. This formula is calculated after analysis of algortihms by using summations.
https://www.physicsforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=33439&d=1300925084

Is the [tex]\sqrt{\log\ n}[/tex] an exponent?

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Yes, it is an exponent
 


I think the 2nd one is pretty straight forward with L'Hopital's rule.

[tex]2^{\sqrt{\log\,x}}=e^{(\log\,2)\sqrt{\log\,x}}[/tex]

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Well, I made a mistake, so it's not so easy.

But...

For the first one, try i = 1. That does work using L'Hopital. Then use induction, assuming that i is a positive integer,
 
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I thought i can solve this limit by L' Hopital's Rule but after derivatives of both parts. The first one is equal to 0 but i have problem with the second one. Can i rewrite log as n^1/2 but I'm not sure about it since the log itself is square root not the "n" nor "2". The second one is equal to 0 after rewriting log but not the first one. Or should i take derivative not once but until the second one is equal to zero which i haven't tried yet since I'm not sure about rewriting log
 


ozlem675 said:
I thought i can solve this limit by L' Hopital's Rule but after derivatives of both parts.
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Can i rewrite log as n^1/2 but I'm not sure about it since the log itself is square root not the "n" nor "2"?
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No.

[tex]\frac{1}{2}\,\log(x)=\log(\sqrt{x})[/tex]

but: [tex]\sqrt{\log(x)}\neq\sqrt{x}[/tex]
 

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